The **** happened to WhiteWhale anyway? No posts since 11/19.

I want to say he's mentioned being a business owner. Hopefully things just took off and he was busy with that..?

Pretty sure he's a young dude so I hope he's out there somewhere.

Yep.

Obviously, this trade worked out very nicely. Bad Frank closed out every game in the postseason and had a total of five sacks in those three games. We gave up a lot but I think we got back even more, including a Lombardi. Cant beat that!

I was one of the few excited about this trade but with that said I totally changed my tune right before he started balling out so I'll take some shit with you guys.

This!!

Also this!!!

That should probably get Iowanian banned.

Woof!

Iconic was really on a roll.

Jachai Polite didn’t make it out of Jets TC and is out of the league.

That attitude paid off and it was better than I could expect. I love that we have firey leaders now, and they'll influence the young guys to play with passion and fire. Hopefully creating a badass culture on the defensive side of the ball that lasts long after they are gone.

You can stop patting yourself on the back now.


Rep. ;)

ROFL

:D

And DJ never really ate crow on this.

He wanted Veach fired, he hated the Clark trade, didn’t like the Mathieu signing, etc.

Dude was wrong about EVERYTHING LMAO

Nailed it!

I rock!!!!!! Me = smart and right

Pwned

Damn..... I love to pwn n00bz on this board with my elite football knowledge!!!!

I love this trade and think it'll work out for my favorite NFL football team, the Kansas City Chiefs!

How's that 1 year window looking?

Don’t expect him to come in here and answer you. He’s too arrogant to acknowledge what a ****ing dumbass he was about Veach, Clark, and Mathieu.

I like DJ, but he was dead wrong about all of it.

I too consider myself a fan of the Chiefs of Kansas City, especially when compared to other National Football League teams. I prefer the Kansas City Chiefs.

Likewise!

You and carcosa killed it in this thread. Props.

When he digs in on an issue, there is no changing his mind. Sometimes he nails it- other times...not so much.

Eh. He at least posted in this thread after getting blowback and acknowledged his takes. Which is better then how a certain prominent chiefsplaneteer has reckoned with his previous-draft takes on Mahomes.

Side note - I have a lot of terrible takes about Tyreek Hill. We all have doozies - and we all seem to have different ways of dealing with them.

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https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nf...244720462.html

Here's part of an interview posted on the Star, link above. In it, Frank speaks to his and Chris Jones' desire to be the best defensive line tandem in NFL history. I say, go for it Frank, you could do it, but remember some Chiefs' history along the way. Buck Buchanan and Curly Culp say hi. You've got some work to do.

What does CP think? After five years, I'd be happy to be able to say their names along with Buck and Curly. but that's a tough two to better. Here's the segment:

It’s the same “we,” at least for the most part. The Chiefs have kept their defensive line largely resembling last year’s group, a point solidified by the long-term extension with Chris Jones.

A point Clark made sure to underscore.

“We look at each other and understand what’s asked of us,” Clark said. “We understand the type of pressure that’s put on players like us. We embrace it too. It’s fun.

“We want to be the two best defensive linemen to ever play the game together. That’s one of the things we always talk about. We got a few years to do something great. That’s the reality of the game. You’ve got a few years to do something great and bet the greatest you can be at doing it. Why not do it?”

We have had some dynamic pairs throughout Chiefs history.

If there was any way Carl could have kept Smith in 97 (unsure it was even possible), I'm convinced that 97 Chiefs team goes to the Super Bowl with Thomas and Smith (critically, Denver also doesn’t derail KC’s first half drives without Neil)

Jones and Clark could give this defense an identity that shines on its own from the Chiefs offense. Can you imagine this offense paired with a Top 5 defense? Geeeez. We're talking greatest team in NFL history potential here.

I came!

Excluding the Mahomes draft trade, the trade for Frank is the riskiest move this franchise has made in a long time. When we made that trade and I saw the compensation we gave up, I didn’t think there was any way to justify giving up that much.

When you know, you know. Veach isn’t the one who knew IMO. Spags and his staff gave him the grocery list and asked him to get these guys...and Veach delivered.

Props to Veach for coordinating the trade offloading Peters dumbass and raping the Rams to make that trade not as damaging as it looked on paper.

We’ve all learned from last year. Draft picks are nice, but if you’re picking last and have money to make it work, use those goddamn picks on young ballers.

Seahawks have obviously learned and did the same thing we did in our trade with them by trading for a top 5 safety.

This needs to be the new thing in the NFL. The Chiefs don’t regret the Frank Clark trade. The Steelers don't regret The Minkah Fitzpatrick trade and the Seahawks won’t regret the Jamal Adams trade.

if we went with Clowney like some of the crybabies wanted....no title. What a ****ing trade

Later in the season, Chiefs fans discover:
Frank Clark is a really good player.

This is a repost, but I'm here to say it one more time.

**** Dee Ford with AIDS. Hope he dies a slow horrible and lonely death.

They've got rings on their fingers and deals to keep them here a while. That's a really good start.

lol, the replies on the first few pages are pretty hilarious. Veach might be kinda good at his job, just maybe.

:thumb:

I am glad we didn't fire Veech like many suggested in this thread.

ROFL

Frank Clark is a monster and I was very wrong with some top notch shit takes in this thread. Glad we got Frank C.

You just don't hear this enough these days.

Dude was a beast in the Super Bowl after missing half the season (again). Oh, that wasn't Ford, that was Bosa? ROFL

Just to revisit:

LJ Collier was who the Seahawks picked with our 1st. He’s got 3 sacks in 2 years LMAO

Yeah Veach won this trade

Seattle blowing our 1st rounder doesn't change the fact that it's time for Frank Clark to stop having mystery AIDS during the regular season.

We won a Super Bowl with him and he made some big plays in those playoff games. Great. We traded for the football equivalent of Christian Colon. Hooray.

If he keeps dragging ass, we better be cutting him the following season.

Yep.

We need him to get back to ****ing shit up.

Exactly this. Dude needs to figure out his shit and start producing all season long. If not....he can get the **** out after this season.

It is not really a complete mystery. He has IBS.

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Trade was already worth it, so....

He has said before that he's been trying to stay off social media as much as he can. He'll show back up randomly.

Fifth most sacks in playoff history but people want him gone....

Really where did you hear it from? I had heard rumors of Crohn's Disease but IBL is a new one.

He’s getting paid $100 million. He can try and show up during the regular season as well.

His contract is set up for just that, I believe. So basically it's a contract year for him and I expect him to wreck shit all the way through.

Okay. So he's going to have to figure out how to manage it properly so it doesn't affect his play on the field.

If there's no way around it and he is what he is, then it's no different if he's got IBS, Crohn's, or Haglund's. He shouldn't have the contract he does playing the way he does.

People around here love to bitch about Justin Houston's contract, but Houston had a legit sports injury that happened in the line of duty. And once he fully recovered, no, he didn't crack 20 sacks again, but he was pretty productive.

Frank Clark has yet to sniff Houston's productivity over the course of an entire season.

(Cue the EXCEPT WHEN IT MATTERZ LULZ comments)

The trade was worth the sideline interviews in 2019 playoffs alone.

Get Burkholder on the line. Two bottles of this four hours before the game, every game.

https://www.imodium.com/sites/imodiu...?itok=BvrCiR2P

I believe it was in his first season with us where it was mentioned that he had spastic colon issues. That is basically a symptom of IBS or Crohn's. I am no doc or anything like that but there is not a huge difference between the effects it has on a person and their eating habits. It is going to be dang hard to eat like a top-tier athlete playing a professional sport needs to consume foods. I remember hearing Tambi Hali talking about trying to consume 7,000 healthy calories a day. That has to be incredibly hard with the "stomach issues" that have been reported over and over about Frank Clark.

Please don’t mention Haglunds here every again.


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They said he was the best back in the league. We sent his ass home.

"We broke in their house and stole they shit!"

Veach is probably fine if this is Frank's last year in KC.

Move money off the books, attacks the edge position in the draft and free agency. Or who knows, a trade.

I have no problem with Frank. And honestly, I'd rather him ball out in the playoffs vs what we got out of Houston when it mattered the most.

IMO he’ll be here in 2022 since Orlando Brown Jr will likely get his new deal and a low 1st year cap hit. They’ll likely get Frank to convert some of his salary to lower that 2022 cap hit.

Reason I say this is bc I think we’re gonna go hard on the DL like we did with OL this year but in the draft and they’ll want Frank there one last time.

I can totally see us doubling down on DL in the draft like the Bills did this year. Not 1st and 2nd but maybe 1st and 3rd

Clark already has an absolutely insane cap number of almost $28 million in 2023, restructuring just makes that even worse. Any meaningful restructure pushes that number probably in excess of $30 million. I don’t see how you can rationalize a $30 million salary for such a limited player.

I see little reason to think you can’t get similar production to Clark at a fraction of the cost through the draft or FA.

That's not how it works but ok lol.

It’s taking a part of the contract as a bonus to get immediately. He did it in 2020 and we did it with guys this year. Doesn’t push the can down the road. They can do what they did to Okafor last year: tell him you need to do this to lower your cap hit or we’ll cut you straight up bc we’re at a point in your contract where we can do that.

Plus Orlando Brown Jr is your only vital FA in 2022 His cap hit won’t be big for a couple years.

And no you’re likely not getting a rookie to get his postseason production. Especially from the bottom of the first rd

I think Frank really loves being a Chief and this organization as a whole. SEA was kinda leaving him out to dry in contract talks his final year there. Not to mention him and Chris Jones recruited a good buddy of his and that good buddy, Reed, took less to be here.

Clark is surely a reasonable guy and knows his market value has fallen off from three years ago. I think he's open to negotiate a new contract assuming he plays well this year.

I’m legit surprised Frank has never pooped his pants on the field.

Whatever happened to the 2 UCL tears Clark said he had? I was surprised to see him wearing elbow braces on each arm again last season.

I would still make the trade 10/10 times simply because without him I’m not sure they win the SB.

That also doesn’t change the fact that he needs to have a BIG year in order to stick around on his monster cap number next season.

Now, I do think his production in the RS or lack thereof is mostly due to injuries/illness problems that he can’t control, but we still need more at that price tag.

I don’t think they’ve ever been repaired.

Not literally, anyway.

Very odd. He said he played at 60% the year he tore both. That was the big concern with him his first year in KC before the other health issues started popping up.

As long as they don't take Ryan Sims and Eddie Freeman Back to Back like they did in 2002. Hopefully Bruce Valanche will be shrewder in his picks...

Watch Jarran Reed ball out next to Chris Jones this year, and he takes a small reduction from his expected value (just maybe a couple million) and signs an extension with KC in the offseason.

This has become my favorite part of the offseason each year. All player acquisitions except for vet minimum or undrafted tender deals incite lamentations from opposing fans.

"THIS HAS GOT TO BE CHEATING! THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS POSSIBLE! THEIR QB MAKES $500 MILLION DOLLARS! WAAAAAAHHHHHH!"

The Reed signing is not even moving the needle when it comes to local sports radio. The narrative is the defense is Worse than last year and the Chiefs did Nothing to improve it.

Yeah, that’s dumb. Front seven has been upgraded. Linebacker should see some major upgrades between year 2 Gay and Bolton.

And they likely aren’t done.

I don't give a shit that we overpaid in money and draft picks. Without Clark, we may not have won a SB. Winning a SB for the first time in 50 years was well worth over spending in money/draft picks value returned. I'd do that deal again.


That said, he doesn't produce this year, we need to move on.

That we know of.

The local sports talk is clown level. Soren Petro asked every rookie if they’ve been vaccinated yesterday after the first day of mini camp.

There is nothing like a morbidly obese man asking 22-23 year old professional athletes if they’ve been vaccinated.

I swear the local people love to create drama and prefer it when our local teams suck.

Harold Kuntz asked every rookie if they had any distant relatives come out of the woodwork and ask for money

Dudes trash for what he is being paid. Had one nice playoff run but time to move on after this season