With Andy and Mahomes, there's just too much young talent for it to be a failure IMO.

Beat me to it lol.

We're not talking about some regular team here guys.

This is by far the most unknown room they've had...unless your process is well they started Justin Watson several games last year and we're fine.

No matter how good Mahomes and Reid are if Skyy Moore is a jag Toney misses a lot of games and Rashee Rice isn't ready, it's gonna be ugly out there. I mean you hedge those bets with odds well chances are at least 1 of these things will go our way.

So JJSS was the difference between this year and last year and it's going to implode?

That's what were getting at here?

Exactly. This just makes no sense coming from people who weren't even high on JuJu.

I thought he was a good signing for the most part, but he's exactly what they are a missing a high floor consistent performer. You can "expect" one of the other guys to take on that role but right now none of them are that.

MVS has never been a consistent performer and the other guys don't even have enough reps to make a judgement.

At absolute worst, I think Richie James can give you a high floor guy that is at least 75% of what JuJu gave you production wise.

I just don't understand how this group isn't significantly better.

107 moar posts and he's ours!

Center/guard/RB are widely agreed to be positions you can fill in the late draft.

Mvs and juju are underwhelming players propped up by mahomes and Reid. Toney is solid but it doesn't fix the wr room given his inconsistent availability. And obj and Wylie were not good.i get the urgency behind obj but it was a very expensive experiment

I've been plenty patient and complimentary. But you cannot act like OT and WR are anything but very uncertain. And that we are in this spot because we spent years not fixing the problem.. That's why we replaced an entire WR room in one off-season. Thats why we are still playing musical chairs with mahomes' most crucial protectors, including another gamble that a RT is going to end up being great with the awesome responsibility of protecting mahomes' blind side.

I like the potential of our young guys. But no, I'm not going to pretend veach deserves blind faith when we've struggled mightily at these 2 positions specifically. No I don't think we should just accept throwing mahomes into chaos just because he's really good. And yeah I think we should be solving these problems before they occur instead of waiting for the dam to break creating fire drills to fix critical spots on offense in a hurry.

When you aren't even going to give credit where it's due in regards to JuJu and MVS being perfect short term moves that helped win a SB last year, there's really no point in continuing to have this discussion...

I'm totally with you guys that this receiver room has a lot of talent and could work out.



But also I'd be extremely happy if we somehow added Hopkins to this group. It would be an embarrassment of riches with Hopkins. Justyn Ross would be on the bubble which is remarkable.

Justyn Ross is already on the bubble.

They got 2 years of cheap LT play out of OBJ for the cost of peanuts and moving down in the draft.

That's not expensive.

And they still ended up with Nick Bolton.

The CEH pick is the biggest issue, in that you could have had Higgins. That one is a big **** up.

Other than that.....yeah, they prioritized the OL and T spots over weapons when they had Tyreek and Kelce in tow.

That's been shown to be plenty of weapons with some add ons.