I may give an episode or two a chance.

After all my mom made me sit through episodes of ER when I was young.

So, it can't be that bad. Can it?

Another filler episode.

Didn't get much out of this episode.

I get it.. WAR is about to go down.

Only cool part to me was the zombie head explosion with the baseball bat.

1 hour that could have very well been condensed to 10 minutes (if that long).

1 scene killing 5 zombies and the rest of the show with Rick sitting at a ****ing table.


All I know is the season finale better be orgasmic.

That was a FANTASTIC episode.

Wow.

Merle is trying to stab Glen and nobody shoots him?

I thought the episode was pretty good, but it didn't go the way I had hoped. I was really wishing that the Governor would have pulled that hidden gun and Rick would have owned his ass by having a faster draw.

That was a nice touch by the writers having the members of each group socialize outside of the meeting. I have a feeling that will play heavily in what happens when they go to war.

I also thought that Glenn and Maggie were going to put on a show for the zombies. :hump: Nope. However, steamy scene was steamy.

Can't wait to see the next ep.

Greys Anatomy > ER

You should be fine. :)

I had a running record in the first two seasons where something along the line would straight choke my shit up, a situation, a facial expression, an outcome, . . . every episode.

The first two seasons are top notch drama, top notch.

Interesting to see Rick adopting the leadership through fear style. I talked a lot in previous episodes about parallel to The Lord of the Flies, and here I see it again.

I'm curious as to what you thought was fantastic about it.

I literally got two dudes sitting at a table for a ****ing hour. This was interrupted by the occasional banter/mini zombie attack and concluded with some Maggie/Glen action.

you know what would have been fantastic?

The governor should have agreed to a ceasefire on one condition. Turn over little ass kicker Judith.

Demanding Michonne in exchange for a ceasefire doesn't really mean much other than instant revenge for the Gov. If he had demanded Judith, that would guarantee Rick's group would never attack, the Gov's paternal instinct would be satiated, Rick would be relieved of caring for Shane's daughter, and Judith would be raised in a proper home.

I liked the episode, but the back and forth with Rick/Gov didn't quite live up to what I'd hoped. Rick was fine, but not sure the Gov is bringing the necessary dread in his scenes.

Asking for Judith was the thing I thought the Gov was going to ask for. I thought it would have made the most sense as you stated above.

In my reading, the governor isn't interested in strategy, peace, or fruitfulness. He's now driven purely by revenge and sadism. I knew as soon as he started talking that he was going to ask for Michonne. She killed his daughter and destroyed his eye. He wants to inflict some serious pain on her. I also don't buy for a second that he's going to leave Rick and Co. alone if they give up Michonne (which I think was pretty straightforwardly spelled out when he returned to Woodbury and started issuing commands to his soldiers).

This is one of those situations where I think the people who read the comics have a slightly different take on the governor than those who only watch the show, though. In the TV show, the main really screwed up thing we've seen him do so far was his treatment of Maggie, and even with that he stopped prior to actually committing rape. Of course, he killed all of those soldiers as well, but that's more about survival of the fittest than downright sadism. In the comics, he is a much, much more vile character.

She made a sacrifice for me.

I will have to make one for her and watch GA.