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NJChiefsFan 03-15-2018 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471230)
I've said it a few times now, I believe Nelson's best game last year was against Oakland when he got a lot more outside CB looks with Peters out.

Him having his best personal game and him being a solid #2 that can show up each week are two different things. I like him but asking him to be able to handle #2 duties, Amerson to turn it around, and Fuller to handle going from a #3 to #1 is expecting a lot.

NJChiefsFan 03-15-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13471238)
He was our #2 last year. He just slid inside in subs.

I don’t know whether it’s him or Fuller sliding inside now, but I’m sure they know what they want to do there.

And is that a compliment to him or an insult to the others? And if our secondary didn't do well with him and Peters as 1/2, is it going to get better with him and Fuller as 1/2?

BleedingRed 03-15-2018 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13471245)
The more I think about it the more I want Tyrann Mathieu............


Hear me out:

1. Versatile DB who can Rush/Cover/Tackle

2. Experience playing in the box

3. Play making ability/Return ability


He would give our defense another play maker on the back end. Him & Berry would be stellar together in short yardage and deep passing lanes.


I agree he has been injury prone, but I believe if you get him and he stay injury free than you have won big.

Just wanted to add if we get him we can use the draft exclusively for the trenches....maybe pick up a later round DB

BleedingRed 03-15-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 13471252)
Jordy Nelson to the Raiders

I don't get it.... but ooook he doesn't scare me

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 02:10 PM

I pretty much said this all last week but needs be damned, I would rather spend the money on Watkins, a young dynamic receiver, than a lesser quality defensive player that will only marginally help the defense.

Adding Watkins gives KC maybe the best offensive personnel in football for at least the next two years. It was a no brainer for KC, as they are now extremely difficult to game plan for. Not only that, but it helps the defense too. We're bound to build up leads or be able to play keepaway if necessary.

staylor26 03-15-2018 02:11 PM

I don’t get where people think Nelson was that bad last year. He was out for the first half IIRC and had a decent year all things considered. He had an “average” grade for PFF which I think sounds about right.

I think he has his best year in a contract year.

I know he said on IG that he’s going to prove he’s a top 5 ( LMAO ) corner inside or out this year, so he’s up for the challenge.

Dayze 03-15-2018 02:11 PM

Crabtree
/bring in him for a look
/ ropes
/ 1 year 'prove it' deal


...that about covers the next 50 posts or so.

NJChiefsFan 03-15-2018 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471256)
I pretty much said this all last week but needs be damned, I would rather spend the money on Watkins, a young dynamic receiver, than a lesser quality defensive player that will only marginally help the defense.

We're bound to build up leads or be able to play keepaway if necessary.

I can understand the bold logic. For the non-bolded part, I direct you to the Vermeil years.

Mother****erJones 03-15-2018 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13471046)
They're going to draft one.

Lol remember when I said they’re gona do that RunKC laughed me off

RunKC 03-15-2018 02:13 PM

If we are relying on Nelson as much as we are, then we’re ****ed.

Mother****erJones 03-15-2018 02:13 PM

Gruden is a ****ing moron

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471256)
I pretty much said this all last week but needs be damned, I would rather spend the money on Watkins, a young dynamic receiver, than a lesser quality defensive player that will only marginally help the defense.

Adding Watkins gives KC maybe the best offensive personnel in football for at least the next two years. It was a no brainer for KC, as they are now extremely difficult to game plan for. Not only that, but it helps the defense too. We're bound to build up leads or be able to play keepaway if necessary.

That's all fine and dandy until we run into a power running team in the playoffs and they keep our offense off the field by running the ball down our throats.

Mother****erJones 03-15-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13471265)
If we are relying on Nelson as much as we are, then we’re ****ed.

Still got a draft to go. It’s not getting fixed in one offseason. Next year there’s more money to spend

NJChiefsFan 03-15-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13471259)
I don’t get where people think Nelson was that bad last year. He was out for the first half IIRC and had a decent year all things considered. He had an “average” grade for PFF which I think sounds about right.

I think he has his best year in a contract year.

I know he said on IG that he’s going to prove he’s a top 5 ( LMAO ) corner inside or out this year, so he’s up for the challenge.

I don't remember saying he had a bad year. In fact I twice in this thread say I like him as a player. I just am concerned about leaning on him to be our #2. Again, if it wasn't good enough last year when Peters was opposite him, is it going to IMPROVE with Fuller opposite him? Is Amerson really going to make up the difference?

Chief Roundup 03-15-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13471266)
Gruden is a ****ing moron

He is still using his old ways. He is relying heavily on aged FA instead of young players. It will continue to be his downfall.


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