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Womble 11-14-2022 07:00 AM

I do like how after every Chiefs game there are so many fantasy nerds on twitter complaining about him getting no snaps and trying to use stats from 2 games this season to say he's actually decent and being let down by Andy Reid.

dirk digler 11-14-2022 11:48 AM

About time he got benched only being asking for this for 2 years. Sorry CEH you just aren't very good.

BleedingRed 11-14-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16603614)
About time he got benched only being asking for this for 2 years. Sorry CEH you just aren't very good.

in our system*

I think he would be good in other systems that let him run down hill. The fact he is taking handoffs out of shot gun might effect him.

dirk digler 11-14-2022 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16603631)
in our system*

I think he would be good in other systems that let him run down hill. The fact he is taking handoffs out of shot gun might effect him.

He is to slow and can't read holes. Plus didn't he take handoffs from shotgun with Burrow at LSU?

oh yeah he definitely did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdX7VMOo55Y

DJ's left nut 11-14-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16602063)
Clyde Edwards-Helaire past 3 games:

Week 7: 29% offensive snaps, 6 touches
Week 9: 15% snaps, 5 touches
Week 10: 6% snaps, 0 touches

Yikes - that's rough.

But in the end, Pacheco is a better runner and Jet is a better pass-catcher and pass-blocker.

So apart from pure tendency breaking, what does MEH bring to the table?

Three headed committees only work if your committee sucks. With Pacheco and McKinnon, you have the bases covered for a genuine RBBC - ultimately MEH just doesn't have a role.

It's been a long-time coming.

I'm betting his long-term role is as a backup for a team that has a true 3-down back. Because MEH doesn't appear to have any standout strengths, but his weaknesses are pretty nominal as well. If you have him as a pure backup rather than part of a committee, he might still bring some value.

Think of him as a 6th starter type in a pitching rotation. His stuff isn't good enough to play up out of the bullpen in a specialist role. Nor is it good enough to be a genuine top 5 SP. He's there for long-relief stints and to play a larger role in the case of an injury. The specialists in the 'pen can't do that job as well as MEH could, nor could he do their job terribly well.

He's just a guy with an awfully narrow path to success at this point.

DJ's left nut 11-14-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16603631)
in our system*

I think he would be good in other systems that let him run down hill. The fact he is taking handoffs out of shot gun might effect him.

No sale.

This is EXACTLY the kind of system he should excel in. It's more similar to his college offense than anything you'll find in the league.

System is 100% not the problem for him. He's just a guy without any stand-out tools.

NJChiefsFan 11-14-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16603013)
I do like how after every Chiefs game there are so many fantasy nerds on twitter complaining about him getting no snaps and trying to use stats from 2 games this season to say he's actually decent and being let down by Andy Reid.

It always amazes me how many people tell me "hey I'm starting CEH this week what do you think?". I'm always like are you paying attention. He does get his tds I suppose but the national opinion of this guy, from both fans and media, is much higher than ours is and that's putting it lightly lol.

Red Dawg 11-14-2022 04:05 PM

I have no hate for CEH and hope he can still contribute the rest of the year when he does play. They tried, he tried and it is what it is. P-dawg has more speed, vision and is more physical.

Blaker32 11-15-2022 09:36 AM

Doesn't this trend feel like its headed toward Ronald Jones being activated this week or next? I mean they clearly like the production they are getting from McKinnon and Pacheco and unless Jones is redundant to either of those two it would make sense to activate him.

rydogg58 11-15-2022 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaker32 (Post 16605441)
Doesn't this trend feel like its headed toward Ronald Jones being activated this week or next? I mean they clearly like the production they are getting from McKinnon and Pacheco and unless Jones is redundant to either of those two it would make sense to activate him.

I doubt Rojo gets activated. If anything, Pacheco's increased workload means they don't plan on bringing him in.

htismaqe 11-15-2022 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rydogg58 (Post 16605453)
I doubt Rojo gets activated. If anything, Pacheco's increased workload means they don't plan on bringing him in.

Exactly. Pacheco and Jones fill largely the same role.

CatfishBob2 11-15-2022 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 16604192)
It always amazes me how many people tell me "hey I'm starting CEH this week what do you think?". I'm always like are you paying attention. He does get his tds I suppose but the national opinion of this guy, from both fans and media, is much higher than ours is and that's putting it lightly lol.

When CEH was getting the majority of the snaps he was getting decent fantasy production....I was trying like hell to trade for him. I'm hoping Pacheco's fantasy production catches his snap count soon

Mecca 11-15-2022 10:33 AM

The thing that stands out to me is in his rookie year he looked like he had talent, enough to be a solid RB.

Now it looks like his talent just vanished, he looks like he has the talent of a UDFA from a tiny school.

Easy 6 11-15-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16605602)
The thing that stands out to me is in his rookie year he looked like he had talent, enough to be a solid RB.

Now it looks like his talent just vanished, he looks like he has the talent of a UDFA from a tiny school.

Maybe the hip injury left permanent damage

RunKC 02-15-2023 08:17 PM

Not that it’s a question but the guy is 1 million % gone. He wasn’t even in KC today. He was in NY. It’s on his IG stories


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