Yes. Absolutely, regardless of if you sign Jackson or Robinson or Humphries or whoever. Only Humphrey has a lock on his position past the 2025 season. We absolutely need more talent in the room to backfill.

We can pray for a McDuffie like drop.

I think this guy lied about his physical condition because he wasn't at all ready to play.

Oh nothing to speak of.

Just that his baseline at the position both in 2023 and 2024 was fringe starter with occasional games where he just sucked.

But in consecutive seasons he played about 3/4 of his games at a tolerable level. Which is more than we've seen from Kingsley.

Then he won't get to trade up range.

Guys - teams aren't passing on premier talent at 'big ticket' positions like QB, OT or WR because of injury. Hell, they don't really do it at DL anymore.

If Simmons falls to the 20s it's because he was a 10-12 talent who got hurt. True blue chippers don't fall. If he does then he wasn't the sort of turnkey starting LT you're suggesting.

If the long-term medicals check out for premier guys at scarce positions, their injury penalty is de minimis.

Yes.

He's a good pass blocker. He'd be the best pass blocker we've had since Fisher, for sure. He compares to fisher in a lot of ways, in fact.

He'd be a MASSIVE upgrade at LT. But yeah, he'll be badly overpaid.

That's just the nature of FAs.

If we can move Patrick’s money around next year to get Robinson and then be able to afford him once Thuney’s off the books I’m pretty tempted to go that way. Eric Fisher sounds like a hell of an upgrade to what we’ve had and Patrick trusted Fish more than any other LT he played with.

And I think that’s exactly what we will do this offseason. They didn’t draft Nourzad and move Kingsley to G for nothing. One of those guys is probably gonna take over for Trey Smith.

I don’t think the growing pains stuff with a rookie LT is the only reason we will sign this kid and pay him. He’s easily the best LT that’s been available in FA since Trent Williams.

I think they also want to use these 3 draft picks to build the roster back instead of evaporating it to move up for a lottery ticket LT.

Not what I’m thinking but what I think they are thinking.

Looking at Cam Robinson's age and injury history. It doesn't look great. Turns 30 in October, which is the same age where everything fell apart with Eric Fisher. Robinson has these concerning injuries:

2018 - Blown ACL
2022 - Torn Meniscus
2023 - Another knee injury that cost him 4 games

If he's that good then they'll tag and trade unless they really need the tag for someone else.

Guess we've thrown in the towel on Kingsley. Obviously he isn't getting cut but that hurts and it's shocking bad he is. Seemed like a good pick.

He might be a more realistic target than Stanley, but I cannot see why he would be first choice over him. Stanley is a significantly better LT.

IF we're going to spend big bucks, I'd rather do it on Jackson due to age/ health.

Stanley is the more proven player, but older, and an injury history. That could blow up in your face.

Robinson is about a year younger than Stanley and also has an injury history. He is also a step down, I think. He may be a slightly better FIT for this offense overall.

All I know is this thread can die forever. If they’re planning on trotting this turd out there in 2025 with Kingsley as his backup, we won’t have much to talk about next year anyway.

Mahomes is 5x the QB when he has a good LT. It’s the #1 thing holding him back. I don’t want anymore stop gaps, I don’t want any more projects. Spend the goddamn money and get this man a real left tackle. Sick and tired of listening to excuses while Mahomes is neutered because we can’t ****ing block anyone.

Yeah, it'd be pretty hard not to check out at that point and just enjoy the game without getting invested. Especially considering Andy couldn't even be ****ing bothered to try him when Mahomes was getting his ass blasted every other drop back.

Ive been saying that since we signed Donovan Smith. Should have done this last year. It was the biggest concern going into the season, and it turned out to be the killer. Signing broke dick jags, drafting raw rookies, and moving players around playing them out of position with duct tape doesn't cut it.