Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 13438699)

Don't know if I agree with it, but here's an interesting take...

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...202135594.html

"Chiefs trade star Marcus Peters as smart AFC West rivals steepen the climb for Denver Broncos. Klee believes the trade helps the Chiefs.

He wrote: "The Chiefs became a more severe long-term threat Friday when they traded star cornerback Marcus Peters to the Rams. On the surface it looks like a blow to Kansas City: Peters is 25 and shows 21 interceptions in three seasons. The Chiefs will be better off in the long run without Marcus Peters. If Peters is that much of an asset, why did K.C.'s defense rank 30th (out of 32) in DVOA and why would a franchise move on from a 20-something All-Pro at a premium position?

"Easy. Peters isn't worth the trouble. As I wrote in August in a column on John Elway and the anthem protests, 'it's a business,' as players like to say.

"When guys hurt the bottom line — and you should've heard some of the fan vitriol aimed at Peters when the Broncos played at Kansas City — teams make a business decision to rid themselves of bad optics, whether you agree with their politics or not. Peters in conservative K.C. was bad for business."

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13438691)

Correct and that changes nothing about what I said. I meant he is a UFA after next year, not cut.

Edit: it does however tell you why they traded him this season not next.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13438707)

Sutton made this defense a top 10 unit in points allowed every year. The playoff game was the only time in over a year that the Chiefs gave up more than 21 points at home, and it took a fluke pass TD from Marriotta to do it.

Getting rid of Sutton after 1 bad year bc he couldn’t make a defense full of headaches and scrubs a top unit is not logical.

You wanna get mad? Get mad at Dorsey for drafting shitty players like Dee Ford and Phillip Gaines while also drafting a raging lunatic in Marcus Peters.

The defense was not talented last year. Not even close. No DC could get that pile of shit to be good and yet they were still above average in points allowed and gave the Chiefs every possible chance to win the playoff game.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13438709)

Cool it's Peters fault that Sutton sucks balls and the other guys didn't do their jobs.

So end of the day, don't kneel for the anthem or express certain opinions or you will not be welcome to play in KC.

Great, that'll help us in FA I'm sure.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13438620)

FYI for those who havent read the whole thread, The Rams dont have a 2nd rounder in 2018. The Chiefs would get a 3rd rounder in compensation if Peters would sign somewhere else without a deal or direct compensation from another team.

I dont see any ****ing way we trade Peters for a high round draft picks in 2019. We do nothing we get a 3rd rounder in 2018. We have to get something with a better value than a 3rd this year. Or why even make the trade?

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13438670)

You don't pick up his 5th year option after next season and he becomes a UFA, he wouldn't be cut.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13438707)

Sutton made this defense a top 10 unit in points allowed every year. The playoff game was the only time in over a year that the Chiefs gave up more than 21 points at home, and it took a fluke pass TD from Marriotta to do it.

Getting rid of Sutton after 1 bad year bc he couldn’t make a defense full of headaches and scrubs a top unit is not logical.

You wanna get mad? Get mad at Dorsey for drafting shitty players like Dee Ford and Phillip Gaines while also drafting a raging lunatic in Marcus Peters.

The defense was not talented last year. Not even close. No DC could get that pile of shit to be good and yet they were still above average in points allowed and gave the Chiefs every possible chance to win the playoff game.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13438666)

This analogy, what they did would be like selling your fixer upper house for less than the land it sits on is worth.

Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 13438726)

Sometimes the bare land is worth more. Apparently MP's cost to the team was sufficient to know that they sure didn't want to invest 9 mil more this spring or pony 15-20 mil per year on a long term deal. I give the Chiefs front office the benefit of the doubt since they know a bit more about the whole situation than I do.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13438729)

Well we have a 20 year in head coach that hasn't won jack and a organization that hasn't won jack in what almost 50 years, so that benefit if the doubt really isn't very large.

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 13438723)

when you do shit that impacts your employer's business, the could be consequences.

weird.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13438722)

I've defended Sutton plenty. His scheme last year was just bad. Hilariously predictable. You can't blame that on talent. If he was trying different things and none of it worked, you can blame it on personnel. He ran the same thing over and over again. Running dime against Pittsburgh was a joke. We had bottom 5 blitz percentage. Theres no excuse for that. What's the worst that can happen by trying something different, when what you're currently doing is horribly bad.