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BigRock 10-11-2008 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5105195)
OMG!!! I just read the Star article. DOES ANYONE IN OUR FO REALIZE THAT A 3RD FROM THE GIANTS IS DAMN NEAR A 4TH?!!!
Tony wants to go to a contender. Any pick from any team he goes to will be damn near the bottom of the round.

PastorMikH 10-11-2008 06:53 PM
I remember hearing all these Chiefs fans complaining about needing WRs. Now I still hear people complaining about the Chiefs that we only have Bowe and still need more decent WRs. People are also complaining about our lack of offensive output.

On the other hand, we have a TE that, at the end of the year will put up better numbers than most of the WRs in the league. At the end of his career he will have better stats than most WRs too.


Given all of those observations, it amazes me that there are fans willing to trade our best offensive player (and one of our best players for over a decade) for a second day pick.

Even a first round pick, given the career production we've gotten from our first round picks over the last decade, there's a good chance that Tony staying 1 more year still gives us more value than a first round pick would.

If I'm the GM, I tell Tony to get ready for next week 'cause he'll be wearing red and gold.

OnTheWarpath15 10-11-2008 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 5105006)
It's not stupid because Tony has put his status beyond 2009 into question. He said he'd play next year, but didn't speak beyond that point. I don't have it in front of me, but I think retiring after 2009 would also mean that he'd be free of having to pay back any of his bonus money. Meaning it's probably no coincidence that Tony picked that point.

In that respect, Tony may have shot himself in the foot if he wants to get moved, because no team is going to give up much for a guy who they might only be renting for a season and a half.
I'm glad someone ****ing gets it.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2008 06:57 PM
I'm all for trading Tony, BTW. Whatever helps this team gets worse in the short term means Carl and Herm are gone sooner. Hopefully.

kcxiv 10-11-2008 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PastorMikH (Post 5105301)
I remember hearing all these Chiefs fans complaining about needing WRs. Now I still hear people complaining about the Chiefs that we only have Bowe and still need more decent WRs. People are also complaining about our lack of offensive output.

On the other hand, we have a TE that, at the end of the year will put up better numbers than most of the WRs in the league. At the end of his career he will have better stats than most WRs too.


Given all of those observations, it amazes me that there are fans willing to trade our best offensive player (and one of our best players for over a decade) for a second day pick.

Even a first round pick, given the career production we've gotten from our first round picks over the last decade, there's a good chance that Tony staying 1 more year still gives us more value than a first round pick would.

If I'm the GM, I tell Tony to get ready for next week 'cause he'll be wearing red and gold.
Because no matter what they do this year, its not going to be fixed. you may as well just go back to the drawing board imo.

We still have no idea who our QB will be next year. If we draft one we have to hope its not Blackledge all over again. If it is? shit, this team is going to be stuck in the pits for a long time.

Hootie 10-11-2008 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5104785)
****ing Jason Taylor, who's two years older than TG and not a future HOFer, was traded for a 2nd.
Uhhhh...

what? I consider Jason Taylor to be a stone cold hall of fame lock.

Plus...a DE is a little more important than a TE.

Hootie 10-11-2008 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5104860)
Giants for a 3rd and Aaron Ross and Steve Smith.
and david diehl and Kiwanuka and boss and a 7th and david carr and ahmad bradshaw and sammy knight

PastorMikH 10-11-2008 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5105340)
Because no matter what they do this year, its not going to be fixed. you may as well just go back to the drawing board imo.

We still have no idea who our QB will be next year. If we draft one we have to hope its not Blackledge all over again. If it is? shit, this team is going to be stuck in the pits for a long time.


No, it's not going to be fixed this year. But, it is kinda nice to have one real threat on O that can move the chains and give the kids on the team 3 more plays to practice with.

Get rid of Croyle's (or whatever QB we get to start) one sure reciever sure doesn't help him prove himself either. Even next year, if we are running a brand new QB, it sure helps if we have someone like Gonzo for him to look to.

Hootie 10-11-2008 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 5104944)
Wasnt Tom Brady a 6th round pick? Too bad no one in the front office can see past the top 5 players in the country,or maybe we wouldnt pass on pro bowl players every year.
yeah because the chiefs are the only team in the NFL to never land a Tom Brady in round 6...

Me having sex with Jessica Alba is about as likely as a team finding a Tom Brady in the 6th round of an NFL draft...

Hootie 10-11-2008 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5105158)
Jesus christ no.

A good RG. I love how everything has to be spelled out on this board. They have to be a starting RG with talent.
I highly doubt an NFL team is willing to part with their starting, very talented RG in the middle of the season when they are competing for a postseason bid.

If Tony goes, it's going to be for picks and only picks...we might pluck Sinorce Moss from the Giants...whooopdeedooo!

Hootie 10-11-2008 07:12 PM
If Tony Gonzalez goes for anything less than a 2nd (and from the Giants I'm talking the Saints 2nd)...it's a bad trade. Plain and simple.

This franchise in in disarray...to say the least...trading the face of the franchise for a 4th round pick in the middle of the worst season they have endured in almost 20 years isn't going to get people back on that season ticket bandwagon...

Hootie 10-11-2008 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PastorMikH (Post 5105379)
No, it's not going to be fixed this year. But, it is kinda nice to have one real threat on O that can move the chains and give the kids on the team 3 more plays to practice with.

Get rid of Croyle's (or whatever QB we get to start) one sure reciever sure doesn't help him prove himself either. Even next year, if we are running a brand new QB, it sure helps if we have someone like Gonzo for him to look to.
Nah, I'm not worried about Croyle not having Gonzalez...Croyle doesn't target him like Huard does...Croyle looks for the open receiver rather than just praying Tony Gonzalez makes a great catch.

If Huard was still our starting QB him not having Gonzalez would be a huge negative...Huard and GrBac have that strange chemistry with Tony Gonzalez...I never really thought Trent and Tony were on that exact same page...Tony always produced, don't get me wrong, but last season and the season before that...Tony always saw a TON of targets when Huard was in the game...I'm not going to look it up...but I guarantee you that in 2006 the games Huard started Tony had more targets than in the games Trent Green started.

PastorMikH 10-11-2008 07:15 PM
I'd consider trading Tony for the pick that can land Chase Coffman in KC.

PastorMikH 10-11-2008 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5105439)
Nah, I'm not worried about Croyle not having Gonzalez...Croyle doesn't target him like Huard does...Croyle looks for the open receiver rather than just praying Tony Gonzalez makes a great catch.


Tony in there draws coverage away from the WRs. He usually has double coverage in the middle which frees up WRs on the outside. Huard doesn't look that far 'cause from the center of the field to the sideline at the LOS is getting a little far from him to throw.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2008 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PastorMikH (Post 5105447)
Huard doesn't look that far 'cause from the center of the field to the sideline at the LOS is getting a little far from him to throw.
You really post some dumb things sometimes.


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