Freeman has a Flacco arm(why he will go in the 1st) and Sanchez looked like he had a "backup" arm today. Like I said. It furthers the notion he should not have come out and if he does not significantly improve on his Pro Day then don't be surprised.:thumb:

Nothing much changes, except that people can finally stop putting these guys on such a high pedestal. Stafford is still the guy with outstanding fundamentals and arm strength who doesn't play nearly as well as you would expect given his ability and experience level. Sanchez is still the raw guy with outstanding leadership and personal qualities who won't start right away and might need a year or two on the bench to be developed. They both will grade high, but hopefully this puts to rest the idea that these guys are surefire top 5 picks. It appears even some scouts question that.

Very high likelihood the Chiefs take either of these guys. But hopefully this puts to rest the idea that taking a QB is absolutely, positively the only option.

All I can find are highlights and the asshat crew, but it doesn't sound NEARLY as dire as these guys are trying to perpetrate:


http://www.nfl.com/combine/videos/nf...000d5d80ee0db2

You all are just too desperate to make that Sanchez pick and I was hoping to see a "StudMofo" out there today and didn't see it. Today he was not the 3rd pick maybe at his Pro day he might be.

Yes, we should either draft a SAM Cover backer, a backup LT, or another defensive tackle.

8-8, you're our only hope :grovel:

No, we want ****ING INFORMATION. Jesus ****in' Christ with this guy...

The workout is one of many things they will be looking at to evaluate the kid. The workout doesn't help and it could push him out of the top 5, but he'll also likely grade very highly on leadership and social qualities, which are often viewed as being just as important if not moreso than the physical qualities. And I'm sure that they'll take a long look at tape to make sure it wasn't just a bad workout. I don't know what they'll find, to be honest.

But either way, I think this makes him a bubble top 5 pick with some possibility of maybe dropping out of the top 10 if he scores low on multiple areas. But I doubt his stock will fall too far.

**** me.

Milk, I was trying to positive rep. you and NJ about the combine info, and I think I hit the wrong key.

If there's a neg rep. in your box with a "thank you" message, well, I'm the ****ing idiot.

I'll get it right when I spread some around. Sorry.

Eh, I don't worry about rep.

I occassionally give some out just to use the function, but I never much cared about my own, so it's no biggie.

Cool.

It's been corrected. My bad.

I damn gaurantee you if the draft were next week Pioli passes on Sanchez with the 3rd pick with what he saw today and takes Aaron Curry. Curry is far safer and Pioli's rep is on the line with making his 1st pick as the new Chiefs GM and you better not miss with the 3rd pick as a new GM. Sanchez at 'THIS' point is too risky for him IMO.

Matt Ryan was not that risky of a pick last yr because he started far more games and did not play behind a "stellar of a line" performing just as well as Sanchez did this yr. Ryan had it alot tougher IMO which showcased his metal being tested more and passing with flying colors. Sanchez has not had enough time to showcase this IMO.

the nfl.com's clips suck arse. They show guys running the 40 but not making throws.

Pat White clearly had the best day which gives you an idea of how bad the QB class is this year.

No, there was nothing dire. He simply failed to live up to the hype. It happens. However, because he went into the combine as the #2 QB, he needed to be better than he was.

NFLN only showed the group that Sanchez was in, the 1st group had few if any highlights.

Well you didnt watch a single USC game then.