Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
(Post 6515421)
Hootie has displayed a truly appalling amount of relativism in this, and basically every thread, in which he's proven wrong time and time again.
Manning is the GOAT of all time because he makes Marvin Harrison into one of the most productive receivers ever. Eddie Kennison would have had just as good of a career.
Tonight? Manning's downfall is blamed on Reggie Wayne.
Collie and Garcon mean nothing, he can do it with anyone, then Brees has a better supporting cast.
Manning only made one bad throw the entire game?
Well, what about that overthrow on 3rd down on the first drive that cost them a chance to get 7?
What about that bad decision on the out route on the game changing drive before he thew a ball that was almost intercepted by Jenkins?
Let's also remember that the Colts had twice as many yards rushing as the Saints, the same number of rushing attempts, so their running game was far more productive.
The Colts defense also gave Manning a turnover on the 2 yard line, basically saving him from having to score another 7 points.
Manning is the offensive coordinator and coach of the team, he calls all the plays and waves the punt team off the field...unless there are two minutes left in the half and then all of a sudden all calls go directly through Caldwell, who's never called an offensive play in his life.
The entire game flipped on the Garcon drop, but not the Colston drop.
What an embarrassing display.
Yeah, Manning played well last night. But he's the most important player on the team, and the other guy's most important player outperformed him, despite having no help from a running game. Manning also faced absolutely no pressure last night, save for one play.
And he threw a pick six.
Drew Brees was better when he had to be better.
Just like Tom Brady was better than Manning when he had to be.
Manning is an all-time great QB, but the fact remains that Montana won 4 SBs, including making a longer drive that Manning couldn't with half the time, and every time Manning has faced a truly top shelf QB in the playoffs, his record is:
1-6
Brady: 1-2
Brees: 0-1
Rivers: 0-2
McNair ('99 version): 0-1
Meanwhile, his wins in the playoffs have come against the following:
Trent Green: 2-0
McNair (washed up '06 version)
Rex Grossman
Joe Flacco
Mark Sanchez (rookie)
Jake Plummer: 2-0
(We won't bash him for losses against Jay Fiedler, Chad Pennington, or 2nd year game manager Ben Roethlisberger here)
Manning is far more Wilt Chamberlain than he is Bill Russell.
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