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Marcellus 04-18-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6685101)
this is just a dumb post

Please explain.

DeezNutz 04-18-2010 09:38 PM

If Flowers hasn't lived up to his potential, I'm at a loss. That's a major problem with the post.

Mecca 04-18-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6685096)
I think a regime that hangs signs about "losers gathering in small groups" blah, blah, blah is a bit more worried about perception than one might initially think.

That's some embarrassing bullshit that Pioli and company were involved in last year.

That was a pure sign that they absolutely care about what their public perception is.

ChiefsCountry 04-18-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6685096)
That's some embarrassing bullshit that Pioli and company were involved in last year.

February 28, 2009 was the worst.

DeezNutz 04-18-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6685112)
February 28, 2009 was the worst.

Cassel acquisition?

ChiefsCountry 04-18-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6685113)
Cassel acquisition?

:clap:

DJ's left nut 04-18-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6685104)
That was a pure sign that they absolutely care about what their public perception is.

Or that Todd Haley is a HS coach masquerading as an NFL guy and is in shockingly over his head.

Marcellus 04-18-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6685103)
If Flowers hasn't lived up to his potential, I'm at a loss.

I didn't say he hasn't lived up to his potential but not lived up to the hype.

People here act like he is a lock to be a probowler and all I am saying is I am not convinced yet.

RedThat 04-18-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6685103)
If Flowers hasn't lived up to his potential, I'm at a loss.

I think he is very very close. Flowers is a very solid corner, but I don't rank him up there as one of the elite CB's in the league yet.

My reason for saying that, is, he failed to capitalize on given opportunities on more than 1 occasion. i.e., dropping sure interceptions.

To be a great cornerback in this league you gotta make the plays when they are there. That's what seperates him from being great imo.

Mecca 04-18-2010 09:44 PM

Hey at least they know the market!

Get a backup QB from someone else, push hard to trade down in the draft, etc etc.

DeezNutz 04-18-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6685115)
Or that Todd Haley is a HS coach masquerading as an NFL guy and is in shockingly over his head.

When that shit happens, you have to look beyond the HC, though. The fact that Mr. It's all Locked Down in NE allowed those signs to go up is pretty shocking.

And by shocking I mean scary and disconcerting as shit.

Marcellus 04-18-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6685117)
I think he is very very close. Flowers is a very solid corner, I don't rank him amongst the elite CB's in the league yet.

My reason for saying that, is, he failed to capitalize on given opportunities on more than 1 occasion. i.e., dropping sure interceptions.

To be a great cornerback in this league you gotta make the plays when they are there. That's what seperates him from being great imo.

My point exactly. He has been close and just seems to miss the prime opportunity.

To be great you have to take advantage. I hope it happens but until he does he is just another "almost" great player.

Mecca 04-18-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6685120)
When that shit happens, you have to look beyond the HC, though. The fact that Mr. It's all Locked Down in NE allowed those signs to go up is pretty shocking.

And by shocking I mean scary and disconcerting as shit.

Those signs were purposely put in a spot the media could see too....for anyone to say they don't care what anyone thinks is dishonest at best.

RedThat 04-18-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6685122)
My point exactly. He has been close and just seems to miss the prime opportunity.

To be great you have to take advantage. I hope it happens but until he does he is just another "almost" great player.

Totally agree.

DJ's left nut 04-18-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6685120)
When that shit happens, you have to look beyond the HC, though. The fact that Mr. It's all Locked Down in NE allowed those signs to go up is pretty shocking.

And by shocking I mean scary and disconcerting as shit.

Perhaps, but does Dick Vermeil allow that shit in his lockerroom? Marty? Even fellow neophyte hothead Mike Singletary? Singletary all but murdered Vernon Davis but he did it to his face, demanded that the individual be accountable and was rewarded with an elite player for his efforts.

I'm just hard pressed to come up with a coach worth a shit that I think might allow something like that. For some reason I'm thinking Jack Del Rio would.

When it comes to the lockerroom, it stops with the HC. If it doesn't, it damn well should and that's equally alarming.


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