Miles Austin was on BOTH Brown and Leggett. You can't sit back and just say "well since Leggett went for the INT it's Brown's job to clean up if he misses." No. Bullshit. Leggett ****ed up. Brown ****ed up. They both ****ing suck ass! What do we do? We draft Eric Berry and Javier Arenas. So **** that shit.

I doubt they'll be in a position to look his way, although with enough quality quarterbacks, there's a chance they'll be able to get one in what will likely be the middle of the round.

Cassel is completely expendable after 2010, as far as his contract goes. And maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't think they'll have any problem cutting ties if 2010 looks like 2009. I think Pioli's desire to win is greater than whatever supposed ego-driven desire he may have to prove to the world that Cassel was the right guy. I just don't think he's going to go down with that particular ship. If it doesn't work, I think we'll see a new "the guy" in 2011.

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They're still get get passed on, having no pass rush does that.

so the problems, in order of priority go like this?

1. midget nickel corner (a 4th in 09, a 2nd in '10)
2. injury prone TE (a 3rd in 08, a 7th 09, a 4th and 5th in '10)
3. HB slot reciever (#36 in '10)
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45. NT (no picks)
46. OLB (no picks)
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134. Franchise QB (nothing)

and we're to pretend there are no long term consequences for this?

If Arenas can effectively take care of our problems in the nickel, which were huge, and give us a solid return guy as well, then fine. I don't mind that pick. I think he would have been there in the fourth, but whatever.

And I understand that McCluster was a second/third round pick by everyone's estimation. The guy is dynamic, tore up the Senior Bowl and by playing in the SEC, showed that he can play with the big boys at his size.

However, both picks are luxuries that I don't think the Chiefs could have afforded at that point. If they were the Vikings (which ****ing killed it by picking Gerhart) or the Saints or Colts or the like, where you don't have many holes and can pick those luxury players at luxury positions (slot, nickel, returner), then that's fine. However, the Chiefs have a lot of problems in terms of core positions that needed to be addressed, such as RT, NT, C, LB, WR.

And to trade up for Moeaki when Pitta and Hernandez and McCoy (and Moeaki himself) were likely to be there in the fourth round (along with several legit nose tackles), is completely asinine.

If Denver ends up with Cam Thomas or Torrell Troup or Dennis Pitta or Aaron Hernandez in the fourth, which they most likely will, it's going to suck balls.

Here's the thing:

If you want to take someone to be a nightmare in the slot, why not take Golden Tate, who is not only bigger, but faster, with good hands, who is intimately familiar with the offense?

If you want to take a nickelback, why not take Brandon Ghee, who has the tools to eventually be a #2 or even #1 CB?

If you want a tight end, why not take Jimmy Graham, who has the tools to be one of the best players in the game?

Not only did they take players at relatively unimportant positions (relative to both the value on the board and team impact), they universally took the inferior prospects.

I'm not sure "slot WR" is the right way to term it, if they're really looking to make him the Chiefs version of Wesley Welker (Chris Mortensen's words, not mine...). The guy has 346 catches the last 3 years.

If that's what they're shooting for, I'd call it pretty valuable.

Dude, there is no way you can watch the guy play and actually believe he runs at that speed. He was outrunning secondaries.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...-40-times.html
Even if for some weird reason, you actually believe he's that slow, he did dominate the short shuttle run. Was the best in the RB class.

If he turns out to be Darren Sproles, I'm okay with that.

Interesting. Thanks.
I think my point still stand without the Jets example.

They get passed on, but when you have a guy without his head up his ass like Mike Brown did you will be more successful. Let me put it this way. We beat Dallas is we have Eric Berry and Javier Arenas on our team in 2009. Shit. Nevermind. I'm glad Brown and Leggett suck ass. They allowed us to swap their asses for real football players.

If Cassel was expendable after 2010, we wouldn't have devoted 4 of our picks (including trade) taking players who were almost all reaches, in order to cover for his bitch ass.

Cassel will be here indefinitely. And I'm sure that he'll grade out with 0 mistakes, just like I'm sure Pioli will grade out with 0 mistakes from this draft.

Randy Moss isn't walking through that door, keg.

The hypocrisy is stunning. For weeks the threads have been blowing up on this board about how the 'True Fan' wants an OT when we 'need' playmakers - so thus Berry needs to be the pick and to hell with the idiot True Fan. Now, we spend our 2nd rounders on playmakers, improving the offense and return game, instead of fat slobs in the middle of the line and apparently we've taken a left turn to draft hell. We added a NT in free agency - he ain't pretty or special, but you don't have to have a pretty NT to be effective. This team is better at blocking/recieving/returning and coverage then it was at 5:00 pm on thursday. And All of these rookies have the potential to contribute.

We took inferior prospects to what was available at the positions on top of taking positions that really aren't that valuable.

Am I really suppose to believe that a WR/RB project dude and a nickel CB that does kick returns is move valuable than a NT a pass rusher or a potential franchise QB?