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'Hamas' Jenkins 03-12-2013 09:32 PM
I always thought Daniel could be a poor man's Jeff Garcia.

I don't mind the signing itself whatsoever. In fact, I would have loved for us to sign him with a chance to compete with a rookie QB for the starting job this season. What bothers me is that it indicates that we're going to piss away the most valuable pick in the history of the franchise on an overrated LT who will replace a very good LT that we already have, thus ensuring that the previous year of abject misery was a complete waste.

duncan_idaho 03-12-2013 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9491430)
I always thought Daniel could be a poor man's Jeff Garcia.

I don't mind the signing itself whatsoever. In fact, I would have loved for us to sign him with a chance to compete with a rookie QB for the starting job this season. What bothers me is that it indicates that we're going to piss away the most valuable pick in the history of the franchise on an overrated LT who will replace a very good LT that we already have, thus ensuring that the previous year of abject misery was a complete waste.
You left out the part where the LT the Chiefs take ends up being the third-best LT in this draft.

Mav 03-12-2013 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 9490376)
You're a ****ing idiot.

Whether or not Alex Smith is a good QB isn't the point.

The point is the Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in the first round since the early 80s.

They have the 1st overall pick-for the first time in franchise history since the merger-and trade for Alex Smith as well as signing Daniel.

They literally went through this exact same experience 4 years ago and look where it's gotten them. Back to square one.
stfu, and stay out of grown folks business. What I tried telling people here was that Andy Reid, and John Dorsey, didnt see a true franchise qb to take pick 1.1 If they take the advice of dopes like that are on this board, they are on their ass in two years. Stfu, back up, sit down, and move away.

Mav 03-12-2013 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9491430)
I always thought Daniel could be a poor man's Jeff Garcia.

I don't mind the signing itself whatsoever. In fact, I would have loved for us to sign him with a chance to compete with a rookie QB for the starting job this season. What bothers me is that it indicates that we're going to piss away the most valuable pick in the history of the franchise on an overrated LT who will replace a very good LT that we already have, thus ensuring that the previous year of abject misery was a complete waste.
Joeckel, is going to be a better pro than Geno Smith.

At least Andy thinks so.

MeatRock 03-12-2013 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9491377)
He's the only quarterback on a team I've rooted for since Trent Green that doesn't ****ing suck, that's why. Because I was at the 2007 KU/MU game, and it was the greatest ****ing thing ever. Because I think he has the ability to win in this league, and I've always wanted to see him wearing Chiefs red, and I never thought it would happen, until it actually did. Because it's my dream to see Chase Daniel win a Super Bowl in Kansas City, and the first step of that happening is him actually being on the team.

Maybe he'll never amount to shit. Maybe he'll never see the field. Maybe he does and pisses down his leg. But he's here, and I'm ****ing thrilled. And I really don't give a shit how many Geno Smith ballwashers are annoyed over it.
Well, that answered my question. :D

Setsuna 03-12-2013 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9491430)
I always thought Daniel could be a poor man's Jeff Garcia.

I don't mind the signing itself whatsoever. In fact, I would have loved for us to sign him with a chance to compete with a rookie QB for the starting job this season. What bothers me is that it indicates that we're going to piss away the most valuable pick in the history of the franchise on an overrated LT who will replace a very good LT that we already have, thus ensuring that the previous year of abject misery was a complete waste.
If you guys got Percy this wouldn't have happened.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-12-2013 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9491444)
Joeckel, is going to be a better pro than Geno Smith.

At least Andy thinks so.
The Chiefs had two Top 10 Tackles at their respective sides. It's foolish to waste a 2-14 season on the position. An absolute waste. They cut a Top 5 RT to potentially make room for someone who may not ever play at that level. It's ridiculous.

DJ's left nut 03-12-2013 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9491444)
Joeckel, is going to be a better pro than Geno Smith.

At least Andy thinks so.
Joeckel isn't going to be a better pro than Brandon Albert and he damn sure isn't going to be a good enough RT to ever justify keeping him over there as the first overall pick.

It would make more sense to cut Tamba Hali and draft Dion Jordan than it would to let Albert Walk and take Joeckel. In fact, it's not even a close call.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-12-2013 09:37 PM
Will he cruise around Columbia on tuesdays flashing his ring? I would..

ChiefsCountry 03-12-2013 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9491430)
I always thought Daniel could be a poor man's Jeff Garcia.

I don't mind the signing itself whatsoever. In fact, I would have loved for us to sign him with a chance to compete with a rookie QB for the starting job this season. What bothers me is that it indicates that we're going to piss away the most valuable pick in the history of the franchise on an overrated LT who will replace a very good LT that we already have, thus ensuring that the previous year of abject misery was a complete waste.
Jockel wasn't even the best tackle on his team, yet he is suppose to be the #1 pick. Chiefs are the dumbest ****ing franchise.

RealSNR 03-12-2013 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9491444)
Joeckel, is going to be a better pro than Geno Smith.

At least Andy thinks so.
I doubt it.

Geno Smith is a QB. He doesn't have to do very much to prove he's a better player than Joeckel.

If Joeckel becomes the next Willie Roaf, that's one thing. But if he smells even REMOTELY mediocre (like Jake Long even) he'll be pronounced a monumental bust. Geno is a far better bet.

RyFo18 03-12-2013 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9490565)
Interesting that Reid and Dorsey go after a guy from a non-WCO background.
Chase doesn't have much arm strength so I assume they're hoping he can nail the short-intermediate routes the WCO thrives on.

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Originally Posted by candyman (Post 9490718)
This move was made strictly for ticket sales. Chase is not a WC qb, no other reason to go after him
See above.

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Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9490807)
Hey you guys might be surprised.

He's been learning behind one of the best, Drew Brees.

Chase can sling it deep.

The limited time I've seen him (because Drew starts every game) he's looked real good.

He just needs some consistent snaps.
See above. I'd be surprised if he can throw farther than Cassel.

keg in kc 03-12-2013 09:39 PM
Maybe they're going to strap Daniel to Smith's back and hope that the two of them combine to have enough arm strength to throw the ball 10 yards.

RealSNR 03-12-2013 09:42 PM
Sam Bradford's been kind of meh as a #1 overall pick, hasn't he?

If Geno Smith manages to be AT LEAST Sam Bradford good (a VERY reasonable goal in my opinion) then he automatically becomes a better pro than Luke Joeckel.

Because Bradford and Smith are QBs. And the year is 2013, not 1913.

KcMizzou 03-12-2013 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9491464)
I doubt it.

Geno Smith is a QB. He doesn't have to do very much to prove he's a better player than Joeckel.

If Joeckel becomes the next Willie Roaf, that's one thing. But if he smells even REMOTELY mediocre (like Jake Long even) he'll be pronounced a monumental bust. Geno is a far better bet.
Depends where Geno is drafted. If it's high, he'll be judged harshly. If he falls, he gets a tiny benefit of the doubt.

But everyone's eyes are on the QB. A lineman gets much more of a pass.


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