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DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9498128)
Fair enough.

There are other argument to be made here, but lord knows we've rehashed them far too many times (Compensation for Alex Smith, thus limiting their ability to draft a quality prospect to develop, Quality of the player they actually acquired).

I also have to wonder which would do more damage to the fan base, A Failed Vet (yet again) or a failed rookie.

Judging by polls on ESPN and the Chiefs site, plus talks with friends and family in KC, the overall grade given to Dorsey, Reid and Smith is at around a B+. Most people are happy with the new acquisitions and I think that free agency will only bolster those opinions.

Whether it works or not is yet to be seen. I get it. I'm just not slamming the door shut because Matt Cassel was a failure.

Walrus 03-14-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498163)
2011 - All world offensive line......led the league in sacks with 44.
2012 - 24 sacks in 10 games. Projected sack total of 38.

I think Alex Smith is a guy that hates to throw the ball away and that's why he takes a lot of sacks. Also maybe that would explain his high completion % because he never throws the ball away and instead takes sacks. :hmmm:

Sorter 03-14-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9498176)
Im not sure how Floyd/Richardson/Mingo become no brainers. I think it would make the draft a helluva lot more exciting though. If they signed Vollmer, my 1st choice would be a 3rd pass rusher. It'd look especially brilliant if Hali continues to decline.

Should have drafted Mercilus last year.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9498137)
This. Biggest ****stick to ever shit behind a pair of shoes. Whiny little bitch tattling to mods when someone gives him his own shit right back. ****ing pillowbitergot.

LMAO

Hey Dude!

Fat Elvis 03-14-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9498135)
And Vollmer would make me a very happy camper today! :clap:

Esto.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9498176)
Im not sure how Floyd/Richardson/Mingo become no brainers. I think it would make the draft a helluva lot more exciting though. If they signed Vollmer, my 1st choice would be a 3rd pass rusher. It'd look especially brilliant if Hali continues to decline.

So you'd go Jordan?

Long-term, he may be the better pick. However, if you think that you can get real push from your D-line with one of those first three, that's more impactful than a ROLB would be, especially when we already have Houston who's logical next step is to supplant Hali.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498163)
2011 - All world offensive line......led the league in sacks with 44.
2012 - 24 sacks in 10 games. Projected sack total of 38.

Yes, I agree, he does take a lot of sacks. Hopefully, that's something that Reid and his stable of coaches can help in that area.

mcaj22 03-14-2013 02:04 PM

why do people think Tamba Hali is on the decline?

did you see the d-line he was playing alongside of last year? how about the MLBers and safeties behind him?

or the RCB to his outside? No? okay. Guess you were all sleeping

MTG#10 03-14-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498190)
LMAO

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Mav 03-14-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498163)
2011 - All world offensive line......led the league in sacks with 44.
2012 - 24 sacks in 10 games. Projected sack total of 38.

Their oline in 2011 had a combination of Chilo Rachal, and Adam Snyder at guard, which also had niner fans screaming that anthony davis was a bust.

And I told you this before, but you just ignore it.

penbrook 03-14-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9498195)
why do people think Tamba Hali is on the decline?

did you see the d-line he was playing alongside of last year? how about the MLBers and safeties behind him?

or the RCB to his outside? No? okay. Guess you were all sleeping

Tamba is not on the decline.

He was used in pass coverage 70% of the time last year.

He is a pass rusher. Sutton will do a good job with him.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9498195)
why do people think Tamba Hali is on the decline?

did you see the d-line he was playing alongside of last year? how about the MLBers and safeties behind him?

or the RCB to his outside? No? okay. Guess you were all sleeping

Still turns 30 in November. He still has 110 games of mileage on him.

Sure, he's going to have more talent around him, but do you really expect him to return to the 15 sack guy he was at 27?

I'd be surprised to see him get back to the 12 sack guy he was at 28.

Time's a bitch and it's not on Hali's side. I don't think he's shot, but I don't think you can argue with a straight face that he isn't either A) in decline or B) due to start said decline in fairly short order.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9498195)
why do people think Tamba Hali is on the decline?

did you see the d-line he was playing alongside of last year? how about the MLBers and safeties behind him?

or the RCB to his outside? No? okay. Guess you were all sleeping

Smart teams have young, ascending players on their roster backing up older players.

Having a Dion Jordan (despite his brilliance outside of football) would be nice not only as a rotational player, but as insurance if either Hali or Houston were injured.

If either were to be injured, it would seriously affect QB pressure and pass rush.

Mav 03-14-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498194)
Yes, I agree, he does take a lot of sacks. Hopefully, that's something that Reid and his stable of coaches can help in that area.

id rather him take an unneeded sack, than an unneeded turnover which the chiefs saw far too often last year.

But yes, he even admits he takes too many sacks. Hopefully that changes.

The Franchise 03-14-2013 02:08 PM

What about 2012?

The one where he averaged 2.4 sacks a game......only down .35 sacks per game from the year before?


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