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Hootie 03-18-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512574)
No, he was good enough to be the 8th best QB in one year during his career.

Whether he can repeat that ever again is highly debatable.

was Matt Cassel ever a top 10 QB in any 1 year?

Was he ever a top 15?

???

?????

If not I just don't see how they can compare to one another since PFF is the best tool in the NFL to evaluate NFL players (PHIL EMERY SAID SO!!!!)

so therefore you are a hypocrite

DaneMcCloud 03-18-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512574)
No, he was good enough to be the 8th best QB in one year during his career.

Whether he can repeat that ever again is highly debatable.

It IS debatable because he's only done so one out of seven years.

But, he is ascending, not descending, so there is a good chance that will continue.

Hammock Parties 03-18-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9512575)
was Matt Cassel ever a top 10 QB in any 1 year?

Was he ever a top 15?

???

?????

If not I just don't see how they can compare to one another since PFF is the best tool in the NFL to evaluate NFL players (PHIL EMERY SAID SO!!!!)

so therefore you are a hypocrite

They compare to one another based on their limitations, not their PFF ratings.

You are being obtuse.

BigMeatballDave 03-18-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9512487)
The excuse making for Alex Smith is already reaching Cassel levels.

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8295573)
I think people dismiss the idea far too easily.

I've always said a franchise QB is defined by what he does when it matters most.

Smith came up huge on not one, but two drives, late in the game when it mattered the most.

:hmmm:


:)

Hootie 03-18-2013 10:08 PM

Clay gladly stated he was the 18th rated QB for PFF in 2012...but, you know, that stat rates on a cumulative basis so he was 18th rated QB after 8 games when most every other QB had 16 games worth of points.

so he'll use PFF to bash on Smith but then he'll conveniently leave out 2011 because it doesn't sell his story

just like he posted 2011 PFF for Sean Smith because it was a better indicator of what player he was than 2012 Sean Smith who started all 16 games...

he's a real genious I tell you

Hootie 03-18-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512577)
They compare to one another based on their limitations, not their PFF ratings.

You are being obtuse.

Wrong. They compare in no way, shape or form.

Matt Cassel is an absolute TERRIBLE comparison for Alex Smith. Awful.

Hammock Parties 03-18-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9512581)
Wrong. They compare in no way, shape or form.

Matt Cassel is an absolute TERRIBLE comparison for Alex Smith. Awful.

Facts are facts, Hootie.

In the case of Alex Smith vs Matt Cassel, their careers are similar, their abilities are similar, the way they play football is similar.

I'm not going to list all of this shit again. None of it can be argued.

You're just being a little shitbird.

philfree 03-18-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512574)
No, he was good enough to be the 8th best QB in one year during his career.

Whether he can repeat that ever again is highly debatable.

In reality the first four years of his career doesn't have anything to do with what kind of QB he is now. His last 30 starts he's put up a 96.5 QB rating. That's his most recent work. That will be more indictative of the QB his is right now then his career stat line. I don't know how many sacks he had over that span. It'd interesting to know though.

Hootie 03-18-2013 10:11 PM

Wrong.

If you want to say Alex Smith is average, then I'll agree. He is average.

If you want to say Alex Smith compares to Matt Cassel in how they play football, or their level of play...then you're just a ****ing moron.

Remember, my track record with QB's is much, much better than yours.

Hammock Parties 03-18-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9512580)
just like he posted 2011 PFF for Sean Smith because it was a better indicator of what player he was than 2012 Sean Smith who started all 16 games...

He was dead last in the league this year in first downs allowed.

Now ain't that some shit?

So tell me Hootie...is Sean Smith the worst CB in the NFL, or is he the guy who was dead last in the league in first downs allowed?

Pick one!

Hammock Parties 03-18-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9512588)
In reality the first four years of his career doesn't have anything to do with what kind of QB he is now. His last 30 starts he's put up a 96.5 QB rating. That's his most recent work. That will be more indictative of the QB his is right now then his career stat line. I don't know how many sacks he had over that span. It'd interesting to know though.

He was sacked 44 times in 2011.

Ain't that some shit?

Hammock Parties 03-18-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9512589)
If you want to say Alex Smith compares to Matt Cassel in how they play football, or their level of play...then you're just a ****ing moron.

Well, facts are facts.

Both those male quarterbacks enjoy dinking and dunking!

In fact, one enjoys it even more!

BigMeatballDave 03-18-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512591)
He was sacked 44 times in 2011.

Ain't that some shit?

He was on pace for 41 last season.

However, Keapernick was on pace for 35. Still shitty.

Hootie 03-18-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512590)
He was dead last in the league this year in first downs allowed.

Now ain't that some shit?

So tell me Hootie...is Sean Smith the worst CB in the NFL, or is he the guy who was dead last in the league in first downs allowed?

Pick one!

he was dead last in first downs allowed?!?! OMG

hopefully he wasn't dead last in times he brought down a runner with ankle tackles...

or dead last in smiling on the field

if he's all three of those things I think Dorsey should be fired immediately...

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-18-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512587)
Facts are facts, Hootie.

In the case of Alex Smith vs Matt Cassel, their careers are similar, their abilities are similar, the way they play football is similar.

I'm not going to list all of this shit again. None of it can be argued.

You're just being a little shitbird.

Actually you should. "Alex Smith vs Matt Cassel" sounds like "the people vs"-thread for this season. Sublime it would be.
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