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Messier 04-06-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10543493)
Because the OL has...

We're replacing two spots.

BigMeatballDave 04-06-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10543431)
It was a thin roster on Jan 4, 2014.

It is much more so now.

Lewis is gone. That's an improvement.

chiefzilla1501 04-06-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10543598)
wherese of the number of needs.

The Chiefs need to improve at 6 spots to be a better team in 2014 than they were in 2013.

FS
WR2
TE
LG
RG
DE

They have perhaps upgraded at the DE spot with Walker over Jackson, but that still leaves 5 spots to fill with:

The 23rd pick
A 3rd rounder
A 4th rounder
A 5th rounder
2 6th rounders

and bottom barrel free agents. Or holdover players like Kelce and Commings who have shown absolutely nothing so far in the NFL.

The low part of the draft and bottom of the barrel is where I want to be finding guards and tight end depth. So the fact that we chose not to pay Schwartz and asamoah is hopefully a sign we are taking that approach. It also means I could really care less if we aren't great at guard.

BigMeatballDave 04-06-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10543130)

Zero playoff wins in 20 years and in the last 15 years they have made the playoffs, on average once every 3-4 years.
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WE LANDED ON THE MOON!

Pasta Little Brioni 04-06-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10543938)
WE LANDED ON THE MOON!

So many wrist cutters on here

duncan_idaho 04-06-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10543865)
The low part of the draft and bottom of the barrel is where I want to be finding guards and tight end depth. So the fact that we chose not to pay Schwartz and asamoah is hopefully a sign we are taking that approach. It also means I could really care less if we aren't great at guard.

But the problem is that the Chiefs don't need TE depth. They need a starter. Fasano and McGrath are depth. Kelce is a lottery ticket at this point.

They also need at least one, probably two starting guards. If they fill those spots with lower-round guys and roster depth and etc, that's fine. If they fill one of those spots by using the first round pick on it? Ouch.

The Chiefs need to add at least one playmaker, and really two, in the passing game.

They could try to grab one of those in the first round of the draft or even the third, but the odds are against a rookie WR making a quick impact.

There are just so many holes to fill on a roster that was not talented enough to begin with.

Just Passin' By 04-06-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10543484)
Because it was a garbage draft class and some coaches (like Andy Reid) have not yet noticed what teams like the Saints, Pats, and Colts have figured out.

The Patriots drafted Solder in the first round.

O.city 04-06-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10544028)
But the problem is that the Chiefs don't need TE depth. They need a starter. Fasano and McGrath are depth. Kelce is a lottery ticket at this point.

They also need at least one, probably two starting guards. If they fill those spots with lower-round guys and roster depth and etc, that's fine. If they fill one of those spots by using the first round pick on it? Ouch.

The Chiefs need to add at least one playmaker, and really two, in the passing game.

They could try to grab one of those in the first round of the draft or even the third, but the odds are against a rookie WR making a quick impact.

There are just so many holes to fill on a roster that was not talented enough to begin with.

I guess I just don't agree that it's not talented enough as is.

I don't really see TE as that big of a hole, Reid's offense hasn't ever been huge in regards to the te so while I'd like them to look at Ebron if he's there, I don't think it's dire.

Hammock Parties 04-06-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10544059)
Reid's offense hasn't ever been huge in regards to the te.

You're mistaken.

And it's especially important when Alex Smith is the QB.

O.city 04-06-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10544071)
You're mistaken.

And it's especially important when Alex Smith is the QB.

He's always been more favored to the wrs and backs. He's had some solid tes in there, but it's not anything like the 9ers etc.

Hammock Parties 04-06-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10544073)
He's always been more favored to the wrs and backs. He's had some solid tes in there, but it's not anything like the 9ers etc.

You need to look at Brent Celek's numbers and then shut the **** up.

O.city 04-06-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10544079)
You need to look at Brent Celek's numbers and then shut the **** up.

Would you consider TE to be a featured position in Andy Reid's offense?

Hammock Parties 04-06-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10544091)
Would you consider TE to be a featured position in Andy Reid's offense?

We have nothing at tight end, dude. We need SOMETHING. It has a role in his offense, especially with Alex at QB.

GloryDayz 04-06-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10542950)
Phisophically, I agree with the build through the draft approach.

However, I can not support the mixed approach that the two off seasons have entailed.

Building through the draft behind trading two premium picks for a 29 year old QB is limiting any potential window.

When the pieces you are adding in this draft are ready, Smith and other pieces you already have in place will be hitting the end of their windows.

These contradictory moves are almost assuredly setting this franchise up for an endless cycle of mediocrity.

Yes, you said it very well. And it is indeed a cycle.

TEX 04-06-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10544127)
Yes, you said it very well. And it is indeed a cycle.

He sure did. So well in fact that those who dont see it, dont want to.


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