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Hootie 12-30-2014 11:55 PM

Well ... I implore you all to be Colts fans. Andrew Luck will dig them into a hole almost every game and sometimes he'll dig them out. I'm pretty sure if Luck was a Chief we'd probably have no more than 20 wins over the past two years and some would be wondering why he turns the ball over so god damn much and why he misses open receivers (like Alex Smith did with Wilson) so much. Because, news flash, if you watch the Colts you'll see a very inconsistent QB at this point.

But you know what he gets? He has everyone saying "well the Colts have a terrible line and terrible players around him. It's a 1 man team!"

...you say anything about Alex Smith and you get bombarded with "omg that's an excuse!"

You mention Andrew Luck and his inconsistency and someone will bring up 10 excuses and say that he single-handedly got them to the playoffs ..

you know

nevermind Alex Smith took over a 2-14 team and suddenly they were in the playoffs last year

...but he had NOTHING to do with that

It's just baffling. Either QB's or responsible for wins or they aren't. Or it's somewhere in between.

What I've found out is, if Aaron/Tom or Luck struggle, it's never their fault. They are their teams.

Alex Smith has had a top 5 winning % for the last 53 games he's started and according to this board, he, the QB, the most important position in sports, has nothing to do with that he just has elite talent around him.

Just stop.

philfree 12-31-2014 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11231193)
Well ... I implore you all to be Colts fans. Andrew Luck will dig them into a hole almost every game and sometimes he'll dig them out. I'm pretty sure if Luck was a Chief we'd probably have no more than 20 wins over the past two years and some would be wondering why he turns the ball over so god damn much and why he misses open receivers (like Alex Smith did with Wilson) so much. Because, news flash, if you watch the Colts you'll see a very inconsistent QB at this point.

But you know what he gets? He has everyone saying "well the Colts have a terrible line and terrible players around him. It's a 1 man team!"

...you say anything about Alex Smith and you get bombarded with "omg that's an excuse!"

You mention Andrew Luck and his inconsistency and someone will bring up 10 excuses and say that he single-handedly got them to the playoffs ..

you know

nevermind Alex Smith took over a 2-14 team and suddenly they were in the playoffs last year

...but he had NOTHING to do with that

It's just baffling. Either QB's or responsible for wins or they aren't. Or it's somewhere in between.

What I've found out is, if Aaron/Tom or Luck struggle, it's never their fault. They are their teams.

Alex Smith has had a top 5 winning % for the last 53 games he's started and according to this board, he, the QB, the most important position in sports, has nothing to do with that he just has elite talent around him.

Just stop.

Jets fans. It doesn't matter if he sucks just draft a QB.

Hammock Parties 12-31-2014 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11231193)

Alex Smith has had a top 5 winning % for the last 53 games he's started.

And he's 10-12 since the mirage of 9-0 ended.

If 2015 starts the way 2014 ended, Alex has turned back into a pumpkin.

Simply Red 12-31-2014 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11231193)
Well ... I implore you all to be Colts fans. Andrew Luck will dig them into a hole almost every game and sometimes he'll dig them out. I'm pretty sure if Luck was a Chief we'd probably have no more than 20 wins over the past two years and some would be wondering why he turns the ball over so god damn much and why he misses open receivers (like Alex Smith did with Wilson) so much. Because, news flash, if you watch the Colts you'll see a very inconsistent QB at this point.

But you know what he gets? He has everyone saying "well the Colts have a terrible line and terrible players around him. It's a 1 man team!"

...you say anything about Alex Smith and you get bombarded with "omg that's an excuse!"

You mention Andrew Luck and his inconsistency and someone will bring up 10 excuses and say that he single-handedly got them to the playoffs ..

you know

nevermind Alex Smith took over a 2-14 team and suddenly they were in the playoffs last year

...but he had NOTHING to do with that

It's just baffling. Either QB's or responsible for wins or they aren't. Or it's somewhere in between.

What I've found out is, if Aaron/Tom or Luck struggle, it's never their fault. They are their teams.

Alex Smith has had a top 5 winning % for the last 53 games he's started and according to this board, he, the QB, the most important position in sports, has nothing to do with that he just has elite talent around him.

Just stop.




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Hootie 12-31-2014 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Alex's Losses (Post 11231216)
And he's 10-12 since the mirage of 9-0 ended.

If 2015 starts the way 2014 ended, Alex has turned back into a pumpkin.

you're a ****ing idiot

and Peyton Manning is 0-4 in games he lost this year

In fact, Peyton Manning is 0-77 in games he's lost in his entire career!

Wow!

0-77 !!!

Holy SHIT!

Simply Red 12-31-2014 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11231193)
Well ... I implore you all to be Colts fans. Andrew Luck will dig them into a hole almost every game and sometimes he'll dig them out. I'm pretty sure if Luck was a Chief we'd probably have no more than 20 wins over the past two years and some would be wondering why he turns the ball over so god damn much and why he misses open receivers (like Alex Smith did with Wilson) so much. Because, news flash, if you watch the Colts you'll see a very inconsistent QB at this point.

But you know what he gets? He has everyone saying "well the Colts have a terrible line and terrible players around him. It's a 1 man team!"

...you say anything about Alex Smith and you get bombarded with "omg that's an excuse!"

You mention Andrew Luck and his inconsistency and someone will bring up 10 excuses and say that he single-handedly got them to the playoffs ..

you know

nevermind Alex Smith took over a 2-14 team and suddenly they were in the playoffs last year

...but he had NOTHING to do with that

It's just baffling. Either QB's or responsible for wins or they aren't. Or it's somewhere in between.

What I've found out is, if Aaron/Tom or Luck struggle, it's never their fault. They are their teams.

Alex Smith has had a top 5 winning % for the last 53 games he's started and according to this board, he, the QB, the most important position in sports, has nothing to do with that he just has elite talent around him.

Just stop.


Don't let this get to your head - but that's an excellent post. Very cerebral. Nicely done Hootie.

Simply Red 12-31-2014 01:01 AM

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Hootie 12-31-2014 01:05 AM

I know he can do it, I just would like to know why he has refused to do it thus far in KC? Personnel? Game plan?

Next year it has to be done. If he doesn't throw the ball down the field next year, it's time to move. It'll be 2015. You can't play 1990s football anymore. There has to be some downfield throwing incorporated into the offense.

DaneMcCloud 12-31-2014 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11231285)
I know he can do it, I just would like to know why he has refused to do it thus far in KC? Personnel? Game plan?

Next year it has to be done. If he doesn't throw the ball down the field next year, it's time to move. It'll be 2015. You can't play 1990s football anymore. There has to be some downfield throwing incorporated into the offense.

The receivers suck. No, really, they suck. I wouldn't put any faith in them, either.

Bowe was garbage. Ball in hands, dropped. Kelce is an immature idiot. He's lucky the TD he made a few games back wasn't knocked out of his hands. Hemingway sucks. There is no other description for his WR play.

Fasano is garbage. Avant dropped easy passes with Smith and with Daniel last weekend. DAT and Wilson are far more talented but were left rotting in the bench for most of the season.

I'd expect this type of offensive output from Marty or Gansz or Herm or Haley or Crennel. But Reid? He's clearly a phony.

Although he must be a helluva salesman.

Hootie 12-31-2014 01:23 AM

So

Reid won 9 games with that cast and you're calling him a phony?

Come on, man.

We played 11 teams with winning records this year. I'm as disappointed as anyone we let 7-3 and that huge win against Seattle slip away by finishing 2-4 ...

but clearly Reid is great at game planning and great at getting his team prepared. He does things on game day that are less than desirable (clock management, mostly) ...

but a phony?

This is going to be a long offseason.

DaneMcCloud 12-31-2014 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11231299)
So

Reid won 9 games with that cast and you're calling him a phony?

Come on, man.

We played 11 teams with winning records this year. I'm as disappointed as anyone we let 7-3 and that huge win against Seattle slip away by finishing 2-4 ...

but clearly Reid is great at game planning and great at getting his team prepared. He does things on game day that are less than desirable (clock management, mostly) ...

but a phony?

This is going to be a long offseason.

Reid is calling the offense, plain and simple. He has no input on the defense.

The Chiefs won when Reid game planned and called a great game. They lost when he called a bad game. There was no reason for losing to the Raiders after beating Seattle, no reason for losing to SF, no reason for losing to a very wounded Arizona team and so on.

Reid either works when he wants to or he's schizophrenic.

Discuss Thrower 12-31-2014 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11231299)
So

Reid won 9 games with that cast and you're calling him a phony?

Come on, man.

We played 11 teams with winning records this year. I'm as disappointed as anyone we let 7-3 and that huge win against Seattle slip away by finishing 2-4 ...

but clearly Reid is great at game planning and great at getting his team prepared. He does things on game day that are less than desirable (clock management, mostly) ...

but a phony?

This is going to be a long offseason.

Q'ing myself, but Reid's regular season winning percentage has dropped six percent since Jim Johnson died and has been unable to win a playoff game without him, and further, Reid's teams have gone 19-24 since 2009 in games after week 8 of the season.

Rausch 12-31-2014 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11231304)
Reid is calling the offense, plain and simple. He has no input on the defense.

The Chiefs won when Reid game planned and called a great game. They lost when he called a bad game. There was no reason for losing to the Raiders after beating Seattle, no reason for losing to SF, no reason for losing to a very wounded Arizona team and so on.

Reid either works when he wants to or he's schizophrenic.

This, on offense.

On defense we worked miracles this year with scrubs and b/u players.

In no way can this season be blamed on the D.

We added ZERO talent in the passing game and allowed the O line to go to $#it this year...

rabblerouser 12-31-2014 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 11231180)
Yes, and after they had the 1.1 pick, handpicked their perfect system QB for two second round picks and gave him a hefty contract, and won twenty games - we have what to show for it?

Two major second half collapses and an all-time embarrassment of a playoff loss? Am I missing something?

Get your Chiefs season tickets now???

rabblerouser 12-31-2014 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11231304)

The Chiefs won when Reid game planned and called a great game. They lost when he called a bad game. There was no reason for losing to the Raiders after beating Seattle, no reason for losing to SF, no reason for losing to a very wounded Arizona team and so on.

Reid either works when he wants to or he's schizophrenic.

Reid is either schizo, completely ****ing incompetent...or he is part of the fix. That SF game was so maddening - all you have to do is RUN THE BALL.

ASK FOR A MEASUREMENT.

CHALLENGE THE SPOT.

Reid was complicit in allowing SF to crawl back into that game.

**** Fat Andy.


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