If you define keeping the QB clean for 2.5 seconds as doing their job. A team could manage to do that and still have members of the OL that were poor.

The argument was that Alex Smith has a right to be gun shy. Since he isn't getting wacked in the first 2.5 seconds any more than any other NFL starter (in fact less than most) it does not seem that he should be gun shy. That is the whole argument.

Agreed. Win the redzone and your team will be a very good scoring defense. As you said, when they needed to stop the run to prevent TD's, they did it.

He got hit late by Von Miller and then destroyed by a Steelers player. The offense got the ball out so quickly most of the time this season.

You can't possibly say this OL did a good job giving the QB any time. The NE, OAK and SEA games they did a good job. The rest was definitely below average.

Why don't you watch the Denver game at Arrowhead and see what I'm talking about.

Also, how much of the scheming was a factor here?

Jet sweep fakes, read option fake to passes, etc. Those freeze the defense for at least a second.

This OL was not good at all, particularly at G. Just a good job by Reid to find some way to hide it.

Those are "winning seasons"?

Welp, okay then.

Does anyone else see these threads and to this still wonder 'why all the talk about Low Noise Bandpass filters?'

OL sucked.

And pressure from the outside is different from the middle.
That was what a lot of the pressure was. Guards getting beat or Fisher beat to the inside. QBs can set up and then step up in the pocket as a rusher turns the corner with an outside rush. Up the middle and a QB is usually screwed.


Another way to illustrate the OL suck is seeing Jamaal having to use wizardry to gain yards. No magic and you look like Trent Richardson behind this line.
http://i.imgur.com/Wc9XyNs.jpg

Reid and co. schemed the offense to hell and back because the crew up front was dog doo and it mostly worked out alright. Scoring and key conversions were in the top half of the NFL.

The OL was fine the first half of the year and then seemingly got really bad overnight.

I think it's clear as day that a big part of that was Alex Smith refusing to take advantage of the deeper throws when they were available. Made safeties refuse to respect our ability to throw the ball past 10 yards...so they could crowd the line and shut down the run while also eliminating most YAC. Teams were able to blitz a little more against us to create more pressure and that put a lot more pressure on the OL...especially when Andy wanted to call a more pass happy attack to counter teams stacking to stop the run.

The OL was never fine. It was always below average and got worse over night. It negatively effected all of the offense.

deeper throws were available? I guess I missed Dwayne Bowe running by those corners

So did Alex.

Yes, winning more games than you lose is the definition of "winning season". When people say winning season that is what they are talking about.

cant miss what isn't there

Hmm. So you're one of the "our receivers are never open" guys, eh?

I really should have collated all of Sorter's All-22 breakdowns of last year's games.. Might be the only way to vanquish these idiots.