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Rudy tossed tigger's salad 08-03-2015 04:55 PM

Dane is a moron

Hootie 08-03-2015 05:00 PM

They actually gave him a $31M signing bonus. This is another non debatable fact

BigMeatballDave 08-03-2015 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11636277)
They actually gave him a $31M signing bonus. This is another non debatable fact

When does he actually get that money?

Hootie 08-03-2015 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11636292)
When does he actually get that money?

Can you explain to me why the **** that matters? He got 31 million dollars to sign the contract. The only possible way he'll only make 31 million dollars is if he's cut after 2015 for any reason sans injury. How does this not compute to you ****ing dipshits?

BigMeatballDave 08-03-2015 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11636317)
Can you explain to me why the **** that matters? He got 31 million dollars to sign the contract. The only possible way he'll only make 31 million dollars is if he's cut after 2015 for any reason sans injury. How does this not compute to you ****ing dipshits?

Yeah, I don't give a shit about that. Admittedly, I don't know much about contract language.

I'm asking because if he get's that money this year, then wouldn't that make this a 5 yr deal, if he's getting new money during the supposed final year of his current contract? Am I understanding this correctly? I understand it's bonus money, not salary, but the signing bonus would be in the contract.

Hootie 08-03-2015 05:46 PM

This is all in guarantees:

If Wilson gets cut after this year, he makes 31.7M.

If Wilson is on the team on May 10th in 2016, he makes 44M.

If Wilson is on the team on May 10th in 2017, he makes 57M

After that, they probably renegotiate.

It's really THAT simple.

Saul Good 08-03-2015 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11636330)
This is all in guarantees:

If Wilson gets cut after this year, he makes 31.7M.

If Wilson is on the team on May 10th in 2016, he makes 44M.

If Wilson is on the team on May 10th in 2017, he makes 57M

After that, they probably renegotiate.

It's really THAT simple.

Even if he's not on the team, he'll still get it because it will mean he got injured.

BigMeatballDave 08-03-2015 06:04 PM

I'm to lazy to go back and look, but I recall this silly argument started with it being either a 4 yr extension or a 5 yr deal.

So, if he's getting the signing bonus this year, then it's a new 5 yr deal. Correct? Which all that does is bring down the yearly average of the deal. And of course, has nothing to do with his guaranteed money.

I'm just trying to understand contract language.

Hootie 08-03-2015 06:12 PM

The argument is ... Dane can't be wrong, so he tried to manipulate statements and now he's talking about yearly tax returns rather than admit he's wrong about anything. It's God damn embarrassing

SAUTO 08-03-2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11636351)
I'm to lazy to go back and look, but I recall this silly argument started with it being either a 4 yr extension or a 5 yr deal.

So, if he's getting the signing bonus this year, then it's a new 5 yr deal. Correct? Which all that does is bring down the yearly average of the deal. And of course, has nothing to do with his guaranteed money.

I'm just trying to understand contract language.

Russel Wilson is under contract for 5 more years and over those 5 years he will make 89.something million dollars

SAUTO 08-03-2015 06:17 PM

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-s...ussell-wilson/


This is how it breaks down.

Hootie 08-03-2015 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11636369)

Lol. So his average salary only counts the extension like we said from the get go ... Glad this thread spun out of control because Dane can't be wrong ROFL

DaneMcCloud 08-03-2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11636374)
Lol. So his average salary only counts the extension like we said from the get go ... Glad this thread spun out of control because Dane can't be wrong ROFL

Yeah, because I'm the guy that said he would get 5 years, $110 million with $80 million guaranteed.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, and I'm also the guy that said he'll get $31 million this year, which is untrue.

:rolleyes:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/...n-year-by-year

Wilson's $31 million in true guaranteed money at signing is well below many top quarterback deals. His $56.6 million over the first three years of the deal is well below the $67 million Cam Newton received or the $65 million Ben Roethlisberger got.

SAUTO 08-03-2015 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11636374)
Lol. So his average salary only counts the extension like we said from the get go ... Glad this thread spun out of control because Dane can't be wrong ROFL

That is the average salary of the extension. 4 years. The is a fifth year there Hootie, and the signing bonus is on that year too.


How can it average 22 million when over that time (4 years) there are two years in the 18 millions one at 21.7 and one at less than 24?

DaneMcCloud 08-03-2015 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11636369)

That's just the extension, not the entire 5 year deal.

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“New money” has become one of the great fictions in the assessment of NFL contracts. But, you know, when in Rome.

For Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, the headline is that he signed a four-year, $87.6 million extension, with a new-money average of $21.9 million. The truth is that the last year of his current contract, at a base salary of $1.542 million, has been ripped up and replaced with a new five-year, $89.1 million deal.

But since the average of the total five-year deal is $17.8 million, it won’t be characterized that way when it comes to deciding whose is bigger.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...gin-to-emerge/


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