He already said that they won't be very active this season.

We're so far down the waiver order, we don't really have a choice but to be aggressive if we like a player.

The thing I like is that we're trading for young former first-rounders. Players we were high on back when we scouted them that we must think we can coach up.

and Mariota. IMHO both Winston and Mariota have progressed past Newton in the actual intellectual knowledge and study of the game and you will see it very poignantly this year. Cam has gotten by on athletic ability and big arm but he still is not a student of the game and Wade Phillips exposed his arse big time that he cannot read NFL defenses nor cadence bluff them out to see where the real pressure is coming from.

Coleman Ogbah Shon Coleman Schobert are all starters and Peppers came out of that trade as will the 18 first rounder from Houston. The Browns murdered Philly on that trade.


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Degrading the oline? They drafted Rod Johnson, have the best back up olineman in football in John Greco and added Kevin Zeitler and JC Tretter. The Browns by PFF are said to have a top 3 oline. Losing Mack hurt but he didn't want to stay.


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I hope he gets to play tonight.

I have only seen the plays in this thread and the dude definitely brings pure joy.

The 10 players I listed as probable starters coming from the 16/17 drafts all look like really damn good football players. Ogbah looked like he's going to become something pretty good especially. Kindred looked good when he finally started. I loved Schobert coming out, I think he's going to give them a physical player at ILB. I don't question Sashi Brown just yet, except passing on Wentz, but if it works out who cares? He's definitely put some talented young players on the field. It'll take a couple more years for that core to mature, but it's got a good start.