Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 16810789)

Can't understand why Fox never showed the tug since they have multiple angles. They blew it bad. Also had a lousy post game.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16809854)

I understand this argument, but unless you can tell me that there was a comparable hold earlier in the game that the refs saw clearly and deliberately chose not to flag, how does one argue that they hadn't been calling that all game? It's not like the refs are omnipotent.

Basic hand-fighting in the secondary is not equivalent to a clear tug of the jersey. My guess is if Bradbury only checked JuJu with his hands it wouldn't have been called.

Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 16809919)

Yes the throw was out of jujus reach. Yes, if Mahomes throws that same pass to the same spot and the hold didn't happen it probably still goes incomplete. But here's where that logic breaks down.

If juju doesn't get held, he comes out of that break wide open. Bradberry helps himself keep position as much as he hinders juju. And so juju will have yards of separation and Mahomes can just flip that ball to the front pylon for an easy td. Where the ball ended up is irrelevant to a defensive holding call. And that is what most of the analysts I've seen arguing against the call being made are missing.

Also, the ones saying, did they call any earlier in the game? The one juju complains about a no call would have been PI and wasn't on a break. And then funny enough all the other no call replays they used were eagles players getting away with could have been calls. Never did they show any chiefs players committing infractions that could have been penalties.

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16810014)

I rewatched the game last night and rewound it about 50 times to take a close look at things.

The Eagles got away with 5 blatant penalties:

1. Earlier hold on both Bradbury and another DB on the same play. (2 flags)
2. Jason Kelce was 4 yards downfield before a Hurts pass and he leveled McDuffie on the play when blocking (1 flag)
3. Jalen Hurts had a designed run to the left and linemen Maliata blocked Derrick Nnadi directly in the back, not even close (1 flag)
4. On the 30+/- punt return by the Eagles punt returner, the very first gunner blocker pushes our special teams guy 13 Johnson right in the back (1 penalty)
5. Lane Johnson had 2 false starts never called, one was so early it was horrible and Greg Olsen even joked about it. He had what looked like one more but he was perfectly timed and in slow mo it was not. (2 flags)

I tried to find any offensive holding on either team on the line and numerous times I thought it was, after a few replays it was not or I couldn't tell. Both Olines played damn clean.

Earlier one of the Chiefs looked like they got away with a DPI in the early third I think. It was Jaylen Williams from memory.

Our 3 penalties gave them 2 first downs, one on a long 3rd that they ran the clock to zero and Frank Clark jumped offsides and the second on 4th down near our goal line where Nnadi was drawn offsides.

The last was a false start that pushed us to a 2nd and 15 but not horrible.

The Eagles fans can all Cry Eagles Cry

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16810377)

The holding call was kind of odd. In that spot, at that moment, especially when they hadn't called holding all game to that point?

But it did meet the necessary parameters required to throw a flag, so I can't say it was a bad call. We spent a fair amount of time talking about it at my party, and of course the two PHI fans were apoplectic, but even they had to eventually concede that it was in fact holding, by the letter of the law.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16810061)

Brass balls or no brains.

Take a pick.

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16804748)

They didn’t call a holding earlier in the game.
That fumble for a TD WAS a catch.

They can all get ****ed.

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 16810789)

Can't understand why Fox never showed the tug since they have multiple angles. They blew it bad. Also had a lousy post game.

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16810851)

You forgot the Frank Clark offsides while both guards were rocking backwards and the play clock was at 0 and the ball was never snapped.

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16809928)

Mahomes probably intentionally sailed it so JuJu couldn't catch it. He's incredibly smart and was going for the defensive holding since a first down is infinitely more valuable than a Touchdown in that scenario. He's up and pointing right after getting hit.

Wouldn't surprise me if JuJu was instructed to do what he did in the case of a blatant hold. Abandon the route and get your ass into the end zone to sell the hold.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16810816)

it's a shame that happened

we were likely denied 4 TD game and an all time great moment in the SB

but we'll take the win too LMAO

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16810851)

You forgot the Frank Clark offsides while both guards were rocking backwards and the play clock was at 0 and the ball was never snapped.