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Titty Meat 03-11-2024 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17435909)
Out of 95 safeties PFF graded this year the KC safeties came in ranked...

Connor-11th
Cook- 57th
Reid- 79th

-Justin Reid makes $12 million while the other two are on cheap rookie deals.


Justin Reid is however the sweetest of sweeties and Spags/DB's would be lost without him. That by itself is worth half the money Reid makes. People who entertain the notion of cutting Reid to maybe sign a LT or something are just plain silly.

In fact I think Justin Reid would be fine at LT. Spags believes in him and that's all that matters. You don't cut sweeties like Justin Reid!

Reid is very handsome too! It doesn't get talked about enough. Mahomes has a Dad bod now and the DB's need something to look at.

PFF is a joke stop mentioning them

raybec 4 03-11-2024 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17435998)
PFF is a joke stop mentioning them

Unless they say one of our guys is great.

tredadda 03-11-2024 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17434820)
I will warn y'all - I just got an autographed Creed jersey on Friday. Last purchase to add to the wall in the man cave was a Tyreek autograph and he was gone 3 months later...

You should have gotten a Toney and Moore signed jerseys.

DJ's left nut 03-11-2024 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17435968)
I think it's more about PFF grades being laughably bad and non-credible.

We'll see how the team feels about Reid ... if it extends him, clearly the team has the opposite view as PFF.

PFF kills him because of a bad coverage grade and that's not entirely unfair. He's not a great coverage safety.

But that's just not how we use him.

Whether PFF is accurate or not isn't even the right question here - it's whether or not it even matters given how he's used for us. We use him as a box safety and almost hybrid LBer. He's used as a true 'old school' strong safety more than anything.

PFF doesn't seem inclined to account for that at all. He did the job we asked of him quite well this year and that's what's relevant.

penguinz 03-11-2024 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17436077)
PFF kills him because of a bad coverage grade and that's not entirely unfair. He's not a great coverage safety.

But that's just not how we use him.

Whether PFF is accurate or not isn't even the right question here - it's whether or not it even matters given how he's used for us. We use him as a box safety and almost hybrid LBer. He's used as a true 'old school' strong safety more than anything.

PFF doesn't seem inclined to account for that at all. He did the job we asked of him quite well this year and that's what's relevant.

Exactly. he put on weight before this past season just to be stronger in the box.

He also calls the plays for the DB's and Spags loves him.

tyecopeland 03-11-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17436002)
Unless they say one of our guys is great.

Conner is a surefire first ballot HOF.

smithandrew051 03-11-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17435998)
PFF is a joke stop mentioning them

PFF is spot on whenever their numbers back up the point I’m trying to make.

They’re garbage otherwise.

kcgreene 03-11-2024 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17436107)
PFF is spot on whenever their numbers back up the point I’m trying to make.

They’re garbage otherwise.

:LOL:

In all seriousness, I hate PFF's grades, but I love their analytical and premium stats. It's the only reason I have a membership. Yes I'd love to see exactly how each player does when they are lined up in certain positions on the defense, etc.

Plus I appreciate the analytical stats too that others don't often have.

But yes, **** their grading system.

DJ's left nut 03-11-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 17436141)
:LOL:

In all seriousness, I hate PFF's grades, but I love their analytical and premium stats. It's the only reason I have a membership. Yes I'd love to see exactly how each player does when they are lined up in certain positions on the defense, etc.

Plus I appreciate the analytical stats too that others don't often have.

But yes, **** their grading system.

It's like RAS.

The component parts of RAS are interesting. The 'score' that it creates is just absolutely asinine.

smithandrew051 03-11-2024 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17436148)
It's like RAS.

The component parts of RAS are interesting. The 'score' that it creates is just absolutely asinine.

Funny watching a RB get a poor RAS for being short

T-post Tom 03-11-2024 10:41 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones has passed his physical &amp; is signing his 5-year contract with the Chiefs, per a source.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1767216452069679268?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

duncan_idaho 03-11-2024 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17436107)
PFF is spot on whenever their numbers back up the point I’m trying to make.

They’re garbage otherwise.


Nah, it’s trash all the time.

KSCHIEF 03-11-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17435858)
For the last ****ing time…. Anyone who mentions cutting Reid again needs to be kicked off CP forever. If anything we need to extend him not cut him

What if cutting Reid allows you to pay Sneed on the tag this year? It's realistic you can save $7 - $8 mil by cutting Reid and signing a vet. This defense has plenty of leaders: Jones, Bolton, Sneed, McDuffie. I like Reid. I don't love him. And if you can save $12 mil on a player you just like, but don't love, you have to at least discuss it.

I don't see anyone saying he sucks or that they hate him.

duncan_idaho 03-11-2024 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KSCHIEF (Post 17436345)
What if cutting Reid allows you to pay Sneed on the tag this year? It's realistic you can save $7 - $8 mil by cutting Reid and signing a vet. This defense has plenty of leaders: Jones, Bolton, Sneed, McDuffie. I like Reid. I don't love him. And if you can save $12 mil on a player you just like, but don't love, you have to at least discuss it.

I don't see anyone saying he sucks or that they hate him.


They play 3 safeties so much, though, that you have to replace Reid somehow. So you’re saving $12M on Reid, but what are you spending to replace him? 1/3 to 1/2 of the savings, and at that point, the value and sense shrink away.

Toad 03-11-2024 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17436298)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones has passed his physical &amp; is signing his 5-year contract with the Chiefs, per a source.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1767216452069679268?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah but what is his PFF grade?


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