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BigRedChief 10-21-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 9036586)
Yeah, I was agreeing with your point. I quoted you instead of the other post.

Sorry for the confusion. My bad.

yeah, we trash the team for a lot of things but dealing poorly with pressure is not one of them. They lose plate discipline and look like little leaguers out there is not because they are choking due to the pressure.

Frazod 10-21-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9036309)
Holliday scratched tonight due to back stiffness, Craig to left, Carpenter at 1st.

That just breaks my ****ing heart.

Simply Red 10-21-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9036486)
Are they still blaming the umps down in the ATL?

no i was only trolling. I will be pulling for you all tonight.

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 05:50 PM

From the pregame show:

2012 Post Season

Wins = 52 runs, RISP = 22-67
Losses = 4 runs, RISP = 0-25

Yikes! :eek:

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9036626)
That just breaks my ****ing heart.

I bet you had a huge smile when you heard, if you didn't let a big hell yeah out that freaked out the wife.

WV 10-21-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9036626)
That just breaks my ****ing heart.

LMAO....Still no love for Matt!

Frazod 10-21-2012 05:55 PM

Why the **** is Craig batting clean-up?

Frazod 10-21-2012 06:02 PM

Ugh. Typical shaky first inning for Carp.

jd1020 10-21-2012 06:03 PM

Bobble fail.

jd1020 10-21-2012 06:21 PM

Cardinals infielders playing hot potato.

OnTheWarpath15 10-21-2012 06:22 PM

Anyone else hear this gagging sound coming from the west?

chefsos 10-21-2012 06:23 PM

Well, that was a shitty thing to do. Pitchers who start getting crafty at the plate should probably be plunked.

jd1020 10-21-2012 06:25 PM

Game 7 yet?

OnTheWarpath15 10-21-2012 06:25 PM

Way to show up, Carp.

LiL stumppy 10-21-2012 06:31 PM

jfc. this is stupid

jd1020 10-21-2012 06:32 PM

Detroit is loving this.

...

Carpenter scared of an invisible wall.

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9036752)
Anyone else hear this gagging sound coming from the west?

god damn plate discipline. Swinging at crap out of the strike zone. Letting the pitcher decide what pitch you will hit. Swinging at balls wayyyyy out of the strike zone. Did they not learn a damn thing from watching the tape of game 5?

Miles 10-21-2012 06:41 PM

This is not going well.

jd1020 10-21-2012 06:42 PM

Over or under 1.5 runs for the Giants this inning?

Marcellus 10-21-2012 06:49 PM

Damn this team can't make anything easy. I think only 3 teams have blown a 3-1 series lead in the LCS.

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9036784)
Detroit is loving this.

2006 they won the ALCS in 4 games. Detroit had to wait around for the Cardinals who won the NLCS in 7 games. They only won 1 game and the Cards were WS champs.

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9036848)
Damn this team can't make anything easy. I think only 3 teams have blown a 3-1 series lead in the LCS.

It aint over yet. We have a game 7. We were down 6-0 in a win or go home game in the NLDS going into the 6th inning. They have proved they can come back time and time again.

jd1020 10-21-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9036886)
2006 they won the ALCS in 4 games. Detroit had to wait around for the Cardinals who won the NLCS in 7 games. They only won 1 game and the Cards were WS champs.

And?

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9036910)
And?

Dude are you serious? You said they are happy waiting around. Last time they went to the WS they waited around and it didn't turn out well. I'm in no mood to be trolled pal.

jd1020 10-21-2012 07:25 PM

Ya. I'm sure the Tigers are hoping the Cards win this so they can save Wainwright for game 1. ROFL

VAChief 10-21-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9036977)
Ya. I'm sure the Tigers are hoping the Cards win this so they can save Wainwright for game 1. ROFL

Wainwright would pitch game 1 regardless of whether the Cards win tonight or tomorrow night. Tomorrow is Lohse.

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 9037051)
Wainwright would pitch game 1 regardless of whether the Cards win tonight or tomorrow night. Tomorrow is Lohse.

The way Shelby Miller has pitched in his limited time he should get the next Lynn start (if there ever is another one).

jd1020 10-21-2012 07:57 PM

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Look at this attention whore.

Jesus Christ.

And then she stumbles on the words...

:facepalm:

ChiefsCountry 10-21-2012 07:58 PM

WTH is that singing the God Bless America?

OnTheWarpath15 10-21-2012 07:58 PM

There's our opening.

Bad juju when you butcher God Bless America.

O.city 10-21-2012 08:02 PM

Seems after game 4, our offense thought it was a best of 5 series.

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 08:12 PM

DKnobler ‏<s>@</s>DKnobler Since 1975, 14 home teams have won a Game 6 to force Game 7. 13 of 14 went on to win Game 7. Lone exception: 2006 Mets vs. Cardinals.
Retweeted by Joe Posnanski

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 08:17 PM

SF has had the oldest and most weirdest singers this series.

jd1020 10-21-2012 08:39 PM

Yadi making him earn that out.

Dr. Johnny Fever 10-21-2012 08:43 PM

I'll give this to Joe Buck. Even though he's a Cards fan personally he doesn't let it show in his broadcasts.

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 08:45 PM

Cardinals are 6-0 in elimination games the last two years.
Giants are 5-0 in elimination games this year.

Someone is going down.

Simply Red 10-21-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9037215)
I'll give this to Joe Buck. Even though he's a Cards fan personally he doesn't let it show in his broadcasts.

Joe Buck looks like a three way tie between Sally Jesse Raphael, William Macy and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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NJChiefsFan 10-21-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9037215)
I'll give this to Joe Buck. Even though he's a Cards fan personally he doesn't let it show in his broadcasts.

The guy still bothers me. Jumps to a lot of conclusions on certain things. i.e, though silly, when Zito was seen saying "wow" during his at bat. Buck and that moron McCarver went on about how he was amazed at the fastball speed. Nope, he was clearly mad about the two prior calls. I don't hate him but he gets to me. Next to McCarver though, he isn't bad. McCarver is the Collinsworth of the MLB.

NJChiefsFan 10-21-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9037218)
Cardinals are 6-0 in elimination games the last two years.
Giants are 5-0 in elimination games this year.

Someone is going down.

I really hope its a tight game. I think it could be epic.

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9037218)
Cardinals are 6-0 in elimination games the last two years.
Giants are 5-0 in elimination games this year.

Someone is going down.

Cardinals are 11-4 all-time in Game 7's

The most Game 7's of all teams and the most wins in Game 7's of all teams.

BigRedChief 10-21-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9037456)
Cardinals are 11-4 all-time in Game 7's

The most Game 7's of all teams and the most wins in Game 7's of all teams.

The one team that did win Game 7 after Game 6 loss - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Mets in 2006

BIG_DADDY 10-21-2012 11:48 PM

Wow, if the Giants pull this off it is going to be absolutely amazing. Just got back in town. Gotta look for a ticket tomorrow.

With Melky out, Lincecum having a really hard year and Wilson gone for the entire season I can't believe we are just one win away.

King_Chief_Fan 10-22-2012 06:50 AM

Carpenter, Holliday, Jay, Craig.......what have you done to help?
NOT MUCH

BigRedChief 10-22-2012 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 9037605)
Wow, if the Giants pull this off it is going to be absolutely amazing. Just got back in town. Gotta look for a ticket tomorrow.

With Melky out, Lincecum having a really hard year and Wilson gone for the entire season I can't believe we are just one win away.

We have an amazing story too.

Lost the best hitter of his generation
Lost a Hall of Fame Manager
Lost the best pitching coach of his generation
Lost Carpenter for 150 games
Manager who has never managed a baseball team in his life
Wainwright coming off Tommy John (still not himself)
Lost our leadoff hitter and SS before the end of the season
Berkman did nothing to help us this year.

I wouldnt be counting your chickens before they hatch. We can play like you have seen the last couple of games but for whatever the reason when their backs are against the wall. they win. Their 6-0 record the 2 years is all the proof that you need that I highly doubt the Cardinals you have seen the last two games is the one that shows up tonight.

DJ's left nut 10-22-2012 09:08 AM

18 straight innings of garbage baseball.

7 unearned runs in 2 days. Maybe 3 or 4 decent ABs the entire time. Pitchers that are taking 2 innings to get the !@#$ing ball out of the top 1/2 of the strike zone.

The Cardinals have spent the last 2 days doing absolutely every single thing wrong.

And now they get to face Matt Cain at home in an elimination game against a team that clearly expects to win.

But BRC says that I'm wrong to be disappointed if they don't win this thing.

I don't see how this season can't possibly leave an awful taste in your mouth if they finish this choke job tomorrow.

BIG_DADDY 10-22-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9037856)
We have an amazing story too.

Lost the best hitter of his generation
Lost a Hall of Fame Manager
Lost the best pitching coach of his generation
Lost Carpenter for 150 games
Manager who has never managed a baseball team in his life
Wainwright coming off Tommy John (still not himself)
Lost our leadoff hitter and SS before the end of the season
Berkman did nothing to help us this year.

I wouldnt be counting your chickens before they hatch. We can play like you have seen the last couple of games but for whatever the reason when their backs are against the wall. they win. Their 6-0 record the 2 years is all the proof that you need that I highly doubt the Cardinals you have seen the last two games is the one that shows up tonight.

OK, who's counting chickens? Overcoming 6 elimiation games in one post season would be epic. I hope Cain brings his A game. We haven't seen it in awhile.

BigRedChief 10-22-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 9038110)
OK, who's counting chickens? Overcoming 6 elimiation games in one post season would be epic. I hope Cain brings his A game. We haven't seen it in awhile.

MLB tonight was talking about Cain having a "dead arm". That he is showing signs of this condition. Said he just has to pitch through it. Don't really understand this condition except its not good to be pitching a game 7 and you could fall off the cliff.

BigRedChief 10-22-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9038057)
But BRC says that I'm wrong to be disappointed if they don't win this thing.

I don't see how this season can't possibly leave an awful taste in your mouth if they finish this choke job tomorrow.

You see the list above correct? Yet, its a failure if they don't reach the World series every year.

You will be disapointed almost every year. Last 12 years you have 10 different champions. Your Cardinals are one of the repeat Champions yet that's still not good enough?

Pasta Little Brioni 10-22-2012 12:06 PM

Let's do this!!! Should be fun as both teams have that never say die attitude. Fitting it goes to Game 7 between these 2 teams.

seclark 10-22-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9038645)
Let's do this!!! Should be fun as both teams have that never say die attitude. Fitting it goes to Game 7 between these 2 teams.

i agree, but i'm a little worried about the cards this time around. never been a giants fan, but they look pretty darn salty.
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BigRedChief 10-22-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by seclark (Post 9038658)
i agree, but i'm a little worried about the cards this time around. never been a giants fan, but they look pretty darn salty.
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yep, they bat like have for 3 games in a row. they deserve to go home.

I think the Giants will get smoked by the Tigers. Tehy only have 2 pitchers and major holes in their 1-9 lineup.

DJ's left nut 10-22-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9038424)
You see the list above correct? Yet, its a failure if they don't reach the World series every year.

You will be disapointed almost every year. Last 12 years you have 10 different champions. Your Cardinals are one of the repeat Champions yet that's still not good enough?

I ask again - if they blow this game, how can you not walk away from blowing 3-1 series lead and 2 decent pitching matchups, without feeling wildly disappointed?

That's the thing about these sorts of deals - they don't happen in a vacuum. If you don't make the playoffs, you should be disappointed. If you lose in the NLDS, you almost always had a chance to win it and how can you honestly walk away from your average NLCS loss not thinking that you should have/could have won?

If we lose this game, I will view this season as nothing more than the season where we blew a 3-1 series lead that we never should have lost because the team came out like dogs for 2 straight elimination games and set themselves up against one of the 3 best pitchers in the NL for a win or go home game on the road. Your 'list' becomes irrelevant once the ball is on your racket with an easy chance to win...then you mail it in against Barry !@#$ing Zito and his 84 mph gas.

And what's so damn bad about being disappointed? Without disappointment, there's no ambition.

BigRedChief 10-22-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9038889)
I ask again - if they blow this game, how can you not walk away from blowing 3-1 series lead and 2 decent pitching matchups, without feeling wildly disappointed?

Of course I'll be disappointed. However, that's doesn't mean I will consider the whole season a disappointment.

Count me out as having the mindset of every season its a World Series or else its a disappointing season mentality.

Marcellus 10-22-2012 01:48 PM

If SF wins tonight they will have won 6 straight elimination games in the post season. Thats a tall order.

DJ's left nut 10-22-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9038973)
Of course I'll be disappointed. However, that's doesn't mean I will consider the whole season a disappointment.

Count me out as having the mindset of every season its a World Series or else its a disappointing season mentality.

The Cardinals win as often as they do because they see an 85 win season or a first round playoff exit as a disappointing year.

They got to this level by being disappointed in less. Teams that are in the playoffs each year re-set their expectations.

Ultimately, when this stage of their competition cycle is over (and it will happen sooner or later), you re-set your calculus again and change how you view certain goals. That said, for a veteran team with a top 10 payroll, the playoffs should be expected. And once you get to the playoffs, virtually any elimination is going to make a season a disappointing one.

Right now, with this squad where it is, I don't see how losing tonight doesn't make this a failed season. Not after watching Matheny's slow hook in both Lynn starts. Not after watching them roll over and die in two elimination games.

It's not just "Hey! The Cardinals made the NLCS and lost in seven!" It's the totality of how that occurred. Given the talent on this squad and the breaks that helped us get here (i.e. things like no Strasburg and the 2nd wildcard), there can be very few positives taken from the season at large if they finish this collapse.

BIG_DADDY 10-22-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9038409)
MLB tonight was talking about Cain having a "dead arm". That he is showing signs of this condition. Said he just has to pitch through it. Don't really understand this condition except its not good to be pitching a game 7 and you could fall off the cliff.

There won't be a cliff. If Cain starts choking Bochy will pull him immediately and pitch by committee. He will have a very short leash.

DJ's left nut 10-22-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 9039125)
There won't be a cliff. If Cain starts choking Bochy will pull him immediately and pitch by committee. He will have a very short leash.

Eh, that's what I'd say if I were Bochy as well.

Cain was throwing darts his last time out. He made one bad pitch to MCarp or he could've gone 8 without giving up a run.

I'll believe Cain's not right when I see it. I think he's the best power pitcher in the NL and power pitching is the coin of the realm in October.

The Franchise 10-22-2012 02:09 PM

Hey.....would you assholes finish this so I don't have to hear all of these douchebag Giants fans anymore?

O.city 10-22-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9039144)
Eh, that's what I'd say if I were Bochy as well.

Cain was throwing darts his last time out. He made one bad pitch to MCarp or he could've gone 8 without giving up a run.

I'll believe Cain's not right when I see it. I think he's the best power pitcher in the NL and power pitching is the coin of the realm in October.

That's the thing he is a power guy but his last outing he wasn't overpowering guys, he just had good stuff

rico 10-22-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9039167)
Hey.....would you assholes finish this so I don't have to hear all of these douchebag Giants fans anymore?

I bet drag queens make obnoxious fans. If the Giants win, it'll give SF an excuse to have a gay pride parade.

BIG_DADDY 10-22-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9039167)
Hey.....would you assholes finish this so I don't have to hear all of these douchebag Giants fans anymore?

Just take a Pamprin already

The Franchise 10-22-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 9039192)
Just take a Pamprin already

I'm not sure you are one.....but the ****ing bandwagon fans up by me are horrible to be around. Almost as bad the as the A's fans around here.

rico 10-22-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9039199)
I'm not sure you are one.....but the ****ing bandwagon fans up by me are horrible to be around. Almost as bad the as the A's fans around here.

Are A's fans comparable to Faid fans at all? I know nothing about them.....

BigRedChief 10-22-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9039144)
Eh, that's what I'd say if I were Bochy as well.

Cain was throwing darts his last time out. He made one bad pitch to MCarp or he could've gone 8 without giving up a run.

I'll believe Cain's not right when I see it. I think he's the best power pitcher in the NL and power pitching is the coin of the realm in October.

Baseball tonight was showing that he was off. He would miss the target of his catcher time and time again. The hitters were swinging at balls and trying to his his pitch.

On the surface, you think Cain is in trouble WTF? Did you watch his last game? He was lights out.

Not totally buying it myself. Just trying to find some hope. :rolleyes:

BigRedChief 10-22-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 9039181)
I bet drag queens make obnoxious fans. If the Giants win, it'll give SF an excuse to have a gay pride parade.

NTTIAWWT

DJ's left nut 10-22-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 9039204)
Are A's fans comparable to Faid fans at all? I know nothing about them.....

Not really.

They're pretty comparable to Unicorns, really.

The Franchise 10-22-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 9039204)
Are A's fans comparable to Faid fans at all? I know nothing about them.....

Not really, no.

Raider fans are exactly how you think they would be.

A's fans don't make noise until the team is good. Otherwise you'd never know they were an A's fan.

Mi_chief_fan 10-22-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9039167)
Hey.....would you assholes finish this so I don't have to hear all of these douchebag Giants fans anymore?

you should try living amongst tiger fans.

Frazod 10-22-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan (Post 9039217)
you should try living amongst tiger fans.

Must have been fun in 2006, though.

The Franchise 10-22-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan (Post 9039217)
you should try living amongst tiger fans.

Dude......I have to live around A's, Giants, Raiders and 49ers fans.......I don't want to hear shit.

Mi_chief_fan 10-22-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9039221)
Must have been fun in 2006, though.

Tiger fans talked shit my entire life until 2006; to their credit, they haven't jumped the gun like they did then.

BigRedChief 10-22-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9039222)
Dude......I have to live around A's, Giants, Raiders and 49ers fans.......I don't want to hear shit.

In guess I'm lucky in this aspect. Not a lot of passionate sports fans down here.

King_Chief_Fan 10-22-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9038057)
18 straight innings of garbage baseball.

7 unearned runs in 2 days. Maybe 3 or 4 decent ABs the entire time. Pitchers that are taking 2 innings to get the !@#$ing ball out of the top 1/2 of the strike zone.

The Cardinals have spent the last 2 days doing absolutely every single thing wrong.

And now they get to face Matt Cain at home in an elimination game against a team that clearly expects to win.

But BRC says that I'm wrong to be disappointed if they don't win this thing.

I don't see how this season can't possibly leave an awful taste in your mouth if they finish this choke job tomorrow.

the fact that they are where they are at is a surprise to all of baseball...the same way 2 years in a row. Statistically it couldn't happen. If they fail tonight, so be it. Being a cards fan the last 10 years has been far more rewarding than being a Chiefs fan the last 50.

Mi_chief_fan 10-22-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9039222)
Dude......I have to live around A's, Giants, Raiders and 49ers fans.......I don't want to hear shit.

And I have Bears, Lions, Golden Homers, Cubs & Wolverine fans who ALL think the world revolves around them. It sucks living 30 minutes north of South Bend during a time when ND thinks they're any good.(They're really not, BTW).

BIG_DADDY 10-22-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9039199)
I'm not sure you are one.....but the ****ing bandwagon fans up by me are horrible to be around. Almost as bad the as the A's fans around here.

I tried talking about the Giants this season but just ended up talking to myself? :shrug:

BIG_DADDY 10-22-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9039209)
NTTIAWWT

The city is loaded with young beautiful women. Funny peoples perceptions.

Mi_chief_fan 10-22-2012 02:37 PM

As far as the Cards, I would be disappointed if they lost, but they've gotten this far with Peter Kozma at shortstop, Beltran with a bad knee, Holliday a bad back,and a manager that seems lost in the moment. I'm proud of this team no matter what, and I certainly respect this Giants team.

BigRedChief 10-22-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 9039251)
I tried talking about the Giants this season but just ended up talking to myself? :shrug:

Matt Carpenter is 5-6 against Cain with a long ass run in this series and he is sitting on the bench. Holliday plays so he can swing at balls inside and in the other batters box.

We are making it easier for your team Big Daddy

The Franchise 10-22-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan (Post 9039249)
And I have Bears, Lions, Golden Homers, Cubs & Wolverine fans who ALL think the world revolves around them. It sucks living 30 minutes north of South Bend during a time when ND thinks they're any good.(They're really not, BTW).

I'm an Irish fan.....you shut your whore mouth.

rico 10-22-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9039209)
NTTIAWWT

If they parade around San Fran in rainbow colored thongs and mankinis because they beat the Cards, then yeah, there's something wrong with it because it comes at the expense of a Cards NLCS meltdown.....but generally speaking, TINWWT.......


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