Justin Herbert says hi from LA. The NFL needs something out of the LA media market. Plus, shit he probably deserves it right now any ways. Playing very well.

I totally forgot about Herbert. If he ends up with his projected stats, he'll definitely win it.

One of the major problems we had since Kareem left was a RB being able to take the lid, specifically when the offense has injuries.

Last night Clyde was that guy. Veach made the right choice.

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CEH has been fantastic, but I can’t see how James Robinson isn’t OROY, he might be a 1 year wonder, but he deserves it, especially doing what he has done playing for the Jaquars and wasn’t even drafted.

Justin Jefferson is the OROTY and it's probably not even close.

You might be right but James Robinson is 3rd in total yards from scrimmage, only behind Dalvin Cook and Derrick Henry for RBs, at least he deserves to be in the argument for OROTY.

It's gonna be Herbert

Very much this.

Looks like Vegas has only 3 rookies remaining who you can bet on as of December 15:

December 15] Only three players remain on the board: Justin Herbert, Justin Jefferson, and Tua Tagovailoa. The Chargers’ quarterback tightened his grip on the award after beating the Falcons in Week 14. Herbert’s odds improved from -500 to -825

Yeah, I wasn't factoring in that Herbert is a QB. He'll probably win it by default just because of his position.

He’s pretty good, man.

I just hope the chargers never get a coach.

Oh I'm not saying he's not good.

But an 85 out of 100 QB is going to win over a 90 out of 100 WR or RB every time.

QB's are that important and Herbert is good, he'll win it going away.

Even though I think Jefferson or Robinson are probably better at their position than Herbert is at his.

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Fantastic if true.

God is good.

Man, this would be HUGE.

I’m 100% convinced we’ve been hiding CEH a bit (as a receiver) and will unleash him in the playoffs.

The way teams have been defending us all year, it just doesn’t make sense that he hasn’t been used more in the passing game.

I expect to finally see some 21 and 22 personnel with CEH and Bell too.

That would be a really nice combo to introduce in the playoffs. :D

Andy started to show in recent years that he really knows how to play the long game and keep his cards close.

It helps having a QB who provides you endless possibilities schematically, but it still requires tremendous patience. I hope Clyde is ready to roll because he could have a Damien-esque playoff run no question.

:clap::rockon:PBJ:toast::thumb:

This news is good...

I need my CEH fix :popcorn:

CEH HAS been open a lot...Mahomes would rather push the ball down the field.

If I have a minor knock on PMII is he has killed a few drives by not taking the easy 1st down...but he's a gunslinger...and 23-1.

For whatever reason, this team doesn’t fully unleash their RB till the postseason in the Mahomes era.

I thought it was just Damien, but it’s obvious that it’s by design or something. It’s the only way to make sense of it.

Yep.

Sometimes the guy is just too aggressive. Hard to argue with the results but it’s obvious this team is better when he plays more to what the defense is giving.

I have noticed this quite a bit as well. Mahomes refuses to check down to the RB. LMAO

9 for 64 yards. Andy runs him more this might of been a different game.

He's one of the few players that had a good game.

Things go different in the 1st with those 14 bogus Tampa points and it may turn out differently since their defense can't just tee off every play. Just saying.

He played with a shit ton of heart. Showed up. Same with Mahomes I feel.

Can't wait till they have a better line. He'll be a huge factor.

Andy not dealing with family tragedies will pay dividends

They started 2 DTs. Really thought they would have pounded the rock more right up the A-gap.

I think he was really under utilized in this game I mean he was drafted for a reason and he is part of the reason we had such a good year 14-1 with the starters.


We seemed flat all game but he had some push and drive but then they just didn't go to him enough i thought. Counted on Mahomes magic too much but he was struggling to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

CEH balled out in the biggest games at LSU - including against Bama, and balled out tonight. Bucs were daring us to run all game. We should have been pounding CEH and not rotating in Williams.

I thought a big part of his game was going to be as a pass catcher? He was mostly invisible this year as a receiver. Was that on him or Mahomes simply failing to look his way?

He only got that much because the Bucs were willing to let us run after they got a good lead. We can’t win games running the ball. With the way the Bucs were playing the run he should have had a lot more than that. It out Achilles heel because we aren’t punishing teams for over committing to stopping the deep ball and aggressively pass rushing.

Those 14 unearned points put a damper on running the ball when you settle for 3's.

Those runs were there because we were in catchup and they pinned their ears back and got pressure with three or four.

Yeah he was a big disappointment there. I really hoped he would be more like Hunt maybe next year.

I am so ****ING stoked to watch this kid behind our new and improved revamped offensive line :thumb:



HOLY **** he is going have a good year mother ****ers. 1000+ yards rushing 500+ receiving. And a shit ton of touchdowns because who you gonna stop ? :shrug:


BOOM CH KA

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This is going be a fun season I tell ya.

I remember all the times the Chiefs tried to run the ball in short yardage situations and got stuffed at the line. I hope those days are over.

Helaire is going to look like Priest Holmes behind this line. And hes probably more physically talented than Priest so hopefully he looks better.

Yep, no more skinny boxes and dropping 7 or 8 into coverage. This is 2018-2019 offense ++++

He's gonna disappear behind these giants like Sanders and MJD used to, and its going to be DEADLY

My worry with C.E.H after watching him for a season in the pros is that...well...i think i underestimated his lack of breakaway speed.

I don't think he'll ever be a homerun hitter. But that's ok. He doesn't have to be.

Even with this new Oline, i don't expect his YPC to change too much, but i do expect him to be much more efficient in short yardage situations.

not only looking forward to CEH and the improved run game (I'm assuming); ...and really gonna love the play action being effective again.

Yeah he wasn't known as a burner coming out, but I bet some what you were seeing was just rookie hesitation/not trusting what he was seeing/poor line play all rolled into one

We'll know what he's truly capable of this year, but I would certainly expect a solid jump in YPC

Yeah, I don't think we'll ever see Clyde take this one to the house. But Jerick McKinnon would. Wish we woulda kept D-Will.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ay4hou7Hw

Priest-type runner.

He has Kareemesque top end speed and that worked out well, on the field.

What? CEH isn't all that fast, but he is fast enough to be successful in Reid's offense. Especially if he's featured more in the passing game this season.

My point was that Kareem didnt have great top end speed either and was successful.
google says CEH 4.61
kareem 4.62.

Yeah but I still think Kareem has more top end speed once he got going.

CEH probably covered the first 10 yards faster.

Probably so... Kareem could take it to the house from anywhere on the field. CEH, cant. Or, has not really shown he can up to this point. Maybe Kareem was faster in full pads, because he's definitely faster than CEH.

Clyde is solid and will be a good back for us but he's not a home run hitter and that's fine. Not many rb's are 80 yard threat guys. He has really good vision and makes tough cuts to get extras yards and can catch.

I distinctly remember Kareem being run down on a few plays. But he was bigger and very hard to bring down.

In this offense, the Chiefs need CEH to be a more efficient short yardage runner near the end zone and on third and short yardage situations than anything else.

The new offensive line should help with that as well.

I'm sure it happened. I remember him getting hit behind the LOS a lot as well... Do you also remember him taking it to the house several times and his outstanding TD to games played ratio?

I do remember that, and i think the Chiefs took CEH because he does a lot of things Kareem did just in a different fashion. We are comparing apples to oranges but the point remains the same, the top end speed isnt what made Kareem great, and isnt needed for to be successful in this offense.


Side note i see Kareem was clocked at 20.84 mph on a broadcast. Maybe soon we can compare.

*picturing CEH running a screen pass with OBJ, Thuney, and Humphrey out lead blocking for him*

OBJ still throws me off.

Tbf, a lot of Hunt’s breakaway TD’s happened as a receiver. The biggest surprise of the season for me on offense was that Mahomes and CEH never seemed to develop the chemistry that Patrick and Damien did, and we really felt that in the SB.

I’d bet that if that chemistry develops, we’d see CEH have breakaway potential just like Kareem.

I was very surprised that CEH wasn't used in the passing game more. I mean a big part of why he was drafted was because of his pass-catching ability. Maybe it had something to do with the lack of TC etc... I just expected way more. you're right - hopefully this year, with a full TC and preseason, and a much improved OL, it happens.

WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN ROLLING THUNDER COMES FOR YOU BROTHER

Me too. I was like, "Wait, the Chiefs signed OBJ?"

Everyone needs to stop using this.

Wwe're using it no one has the exclusive right to initials

You tell them!

Oh wait no it’s stupid

Why can't you use such a qualifier?

This type of shit makes me want to use OBJ for Orlando Brown Jr

Kareem was successful because he would run through 3 or 4 guys on the way to the endzone. Not sure CEH can do that. Nothing to do with speed.

https://youtu.be/1_Gq7rFIe-s

Come again?

I’m with you on this. And we didn’t see much of him in the passing game last year, and his breakaway speed may not be amazing, he’s gonna get some screens that allow him to do his thing. He seemed like a good option in the passing game, but as it’s been stated, Patrick is the anti Alex and he doesn’t even see the check downs lol. With more time to sit in the pocket, I have complete faith in Patrick finding the open guy vs **** it Tyreek down there somewhere.

Still better than when people were referring to Odell as ODB. The OG ODB is a legend, OBJ was not worthy of that nickname.

Odell Beckham Jr?

Sophomore jump for CEH this year.

They still have to prove it of course, but on paper this line hasn't been so loaded since the days of Roaf and Shields

The raw talent is there... now do some wizardry and alchemy up the shit out of them, then field our best five, Heck

:thumb:

CEH is going to have a monster year.

Agreed.

OBJ is gonna PWN the opposition if they dare tackle PMII