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BWillie 02-15-2016 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12083264)
I think KU and Self have proven themselves against the competition in this conference.

Two years in a row, best conference in America, by almost any metric you pick. Arguably the best in the last 3. But you think the Big 12 is garbage. I get it to some degree, they struggled in recent memory in the NCAA Tournament. But I don't place as much stock in the NCAA Tournament as most people do. The games Big 12 plays in the NCAA Tournament are about 10% of all of the games they play against non-Big 12 teams so it's not a real accurate barometer quite honestly. Lots of variance, lots of chance, lately they haven't been "running good" as we would say in poker.

Bambi 02-15-2016 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12084037)
Two years in a row, best conference in America, by almost any metric you pick. Arguably the best in the last 3. But you think the Big 12 is garbage. I get it to some degree, they struggled in recent memory in the NCAA Tournament. But I don't place as much stock in the NCAA Tournament as most people do. The games Big 12 plays in the NCAA Tournament are about 10% of all of the games they play against non-Big 12 teams so it's not a real accurate barometer quite honestly. Lots of variance, lots of chance, lately they haven't been "running good" as we would say in poker.

The Big 12 isn't garbage.

It's like 3rd best.

Bambi 02-15-2016 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12084032)
Dude, STFU man. They do mean something, like the Warriors chasing 72-10. Winning 14 or more conference titles in a row is HISTORICAL. EPIC. LEGENDARY. If they can do it, it's one of the all-time records in college sports, or any sports, HISTORY. Embrace it, pal.

How many other Big 12 teams have gone to the Final Four during KU's run of regular season conference titles?

And please stop calling them "Conference Titles". They aren't.

The Conference Title is the Conf Tournament Champion. The regular season title gets you nothing. It's not a bid to the CBB playoffs.

Pants 02-15-2016 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12084075)
How many other Big 12 teams have gone to the Final Four during KU's run of regular season conference titles?

And please stop calling them "Conference Titles". They aren't.

The Conference Title is the Conf Tournament Champion. The regular season title gets you nothing. It's not a bid to the CBB playoffs.

Damn, dude, I like you and everything but your takes are shit.

Who gives a **** about how many B12 teams make the FF? Do you really think the best 4 teams in the country reach the FF every year? Do you think the best team in the country wins the NC every year? Do you honestly think the 2010 KU team was worse than UNI? Or anyone else in the country for that matter? Do you think the 2011 team was worse than VCU? Shit, the 2012 KU team was not the 2nd best team in the country by any means.

You know what you can judge? Consistency. Do you know why? Because it's extremely hard to achieve. This is why everyone remembers UCLA and why everyone will always remember coach K and Duke. They repeated and repeated and repeated and keep repeating.

The KU conference title run is historic just like coach K's National Championships are. Do you know why? Because no one else can do that shit. Something like this happens once every few generations and then it becomes history. Everyone remembers Gonzaga's streak and that was in a shitty mid-major conference. Everyone remembers UCLA's streak and that happened when Wooden had salaried players on his teams.

Your recruiting take is laughable. Kids aren't choosing UK over KU because of meaningless wins. They're choosing UK because Cal is the best recruiter in the history of the game. What was Memphis winning when he was getting the Derrick Roses and Tyreke Evanses of the world? Come on, man.

If KU somehow manages to win the Conference 13 or 14 times in a row, that's UNPARALLELED. That's not repeatable. That's history and that's tradition. ****ing Butler can get to Final Fours. Kentucky, the best program in the nation, can't consistently win their shitty to average league and get bounced from the first round of the NIT with a roster full of NBA players.

Shiiiiiiiiiiit.

Your conference tournament take is probably the shittiest take I have ever read on any sports forum and I visit the Phog. That says a lot, bro.

You can be a shit ass 8-10 team in the Big 12 and make the NCAA tournament. EIGHT AND TEN. Let that sink in, man.

No need to win a silly tournament zero people outside of Iowa give a **** about.

Chiefspants 02-15-2016 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 12084133)
Damn, dude, I like you and everything but your takes are shit.

Who gives a **** about how many B12 teams make the FF? Do you really think the best 4 teams in the country reach the FF every year? Do you think the best team in the country wins the NC every year? Do you honestly think the 2010 KU team was worse than UNI? Or anyone else in the country for that matter? Do you think the 2011 team was worse than VCU? Shit, the 2012 KU team was not the 2nd best team in the country by any means.

You know what you can judge? Consistency. Do you know why? Because it's extremely hard to achieve. This is why everyone remembers UCLA and why everyone will always remember coach K and Duke. They repeated and repeated and repeated and keep repeating.

The KU conference title run is historic just like coach K's National Championships are. Do you know why? Because no one else can do that shit. Something like this happens once every few generations and then it becomes history. Everyone remembers Gonzaga's streak and that was in a shitty mid-major conference. Everyone remembers UCLA's streak and that happened when Wooden had salaried players on his teams.

Your recruiting take is laughable. Kids aren't choosing UK over KU because of meaningless wins. They're choosing UK because Cal is the best recruiter in the history of the game. What was Memphis winning when he was getting the Derrick Roses and Tyreke Evanses of the world? Come on, man.

If KU somehow manages to win the Conference 13 or 14 times in a row, that's UNPARALLELED. That's not repeatable. That's history and that's tradition. ****ing Butler can get to Final Fours. Kentucky, the best program in the nation, can't consistently win their shitty to average league and get bounced from the first round of the NIT with a roster full of NBA players.

Shiiiiiiiiiiit.

Your conference tournament take is probably the shittiest take I have ever read on any sports forum and I visit the Phog. That says a lot, bro.

You can be a shit ass 8-10 team in the Big 12 and make the NCAA tournament. EIGHT AND TEN. Let that sink in, man.

No need to win a silly tournament zero people outside of Iowa give a **** about.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-conten...d_clapping.gif

RealSNR 02-15-2016 11:36 PM

Even if it were true that future recruits gave even one squirrel fart about that regular season win against UK, is Bambi saying that THIS time we're gonna get a Xavier Henry/Josh Selby/Andrew Wiggins/Cliff Alexander one-and-done-type of player who's going to take us to a Final Four appearance?

KC_Connection 02-15-2016 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12084068)
The Big 12 isn't garbage.

It's like 3rd best.

The Big 12 is 1st in Sagarin (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab...16/conference/), 1st in KenPom (.8539 average rating to ACC's .8168 and P12's .7860), 1st in RPI(http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-conf-rpi.html) but 3rd in Bambi's heart. LMAO

Pants 02-15-2016 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12084151)
The Big 12 is 1st in Sagarin (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab...16/conference/), 1st in KenPom (.8539 average rating to ACC's .8168 and P12's .7860), 1st in RPI(http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-conf-rpi.html) but 3rd in Bambi's heart. LMAO

JFC. I like Wickedson. We used to slay in BF3 as squadmates. He holds a special place in my heart. But holy shit, he's been saying some silly things in this thread.

BWillie 02-15-2016 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12084075)
How many other Big 12 teams have gone to the Final Four during KU's run of regular season conference titles?

And please stop calling them "Conference Titles". They aren't.

The Conference Title is the Conf Tournament Champion. The regular season title gets you nothing. It's not a bid to the CBB playoffs.

Good lord you are being a dolt today. Usually you are bearable. But the conference regular season title is light years more difficult than winning a cute little 3 day tournament.

BWillie 02-15-2016 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 12084133)
Damn, dude, I like you and everything but your takes are shit.

Who gives a **** about how many B12 teams make the FF? Do you really think the best 4 teams in the country reach the FF every year? Do you think the best team in the country wins the NC every year? Do you honestly think the 2010 KU team was worse than UNI? Or anyone else in the country for that matter? Do you think the 2011 team was worse than VCU? Shit, the 2012 KU team was not the 2nd best team in the country by any means.

You know what you can judge? Consistency. Do you know why? Because it's extremely hard to achieve. This is why everyone remembers UCLA and why everyone will always remember coach K and Duke. They repeated and repeated and repeated and keep repeating.

The KU conference title run is historic just like coach K's National Championships are. Do you know why? Because no one else can do that shit. Something like this happens once every few generations and then it becomes history. Everyone remembers Gonzaga's streak and that was in a shitty mid-major conference. Everyone remembers UCLA's streak and that happened when Wooden had salaried players on his teams.

Your recruiting take is laughable. Kids aren't choosing UK over KU because of meaningless wins. They're choosing UK because Cal is the best recruiter in the history of the game. What was Memphis winning when he was getting the Derrick Roses and Tyreke Evanses of the world? Come on, man.

If KU somehow manages to win the Conference 13 or 14 times in a row, that's UNPARALLELED. That's not repeatable. That's history and that's tradition. ****ing Butler can get to Final Fours. Kentucky, the best program in the nation, can't consistently win their shitty to average league and get bounced from the first round of the NIT with a roster full of NBA players.

Shiiiiiiiiiiit.

Your conference tournament take is probably the shittiest take I have ever read on any sports forum and I visit the Phog. That says a lot, bro.

You can be a shit ass 8-10 team in the Big 12 and make the NCAA tournament. EIGHT AND TEN. Let that sink in, man.

No need to win a silly tournament zero people outside of Iowa give a **** about.

Just about the best post of this entire thread.

Prison Bitch 02-15-2016 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12084037)
Two years in a row, best conference in America, by almost any metric you pick. Arguably the best in the last 3. But you think the Big 12 is garbage. I get it to some degree, they struggled in recent memory in the NCAA Tournament. But I don't place as much stock in the NCAA Tournament as most people do. The games Big 12 plays in the NCAA Tournament are about 10% of all of the games they play against non-Big 12 teams so it's not a real accurate barometer quite honestly. Lots of variance, lots of chance, lately they haven't been "running good" as we would say in poker.

And here you are, saying this after blasting Big 12 football as "garbage" because of postseason results.

Lulz

BWillie 02-16-2016 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12084182)
And here you are, saying this after blasting the football as "garbage" because of postseason results.

Lulz

Huh? KU football is garbage. Not sure who disputes that. Wish it wasnt. But it is. Hopefully Beatty can getem on track.

KC_Connection 02-16-2016 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 12084161)
JFC. I like Wickedson. We used to slay in BF3 as squadmates. He holds a special place in my heart. But holy shit, he's been saying some silly things in this thread.

It's just trolling, I'd be surprised if he seriously believes any of this shit he's spewing.

The irony is that as he's trying to escape the poor man's PB label, he's only further entrenching it.

Prison Bitch 02-16-2016 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12084183)
Huh? KU football is garbage. Not sure who disputes that. Wish it wasnt. But it is. Hopefully Beatty can getem on track.

Are you claiming you don't blast Big 12 football as overrated?

BWillie 02-16-2016 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12084188)
Are you claiming you don't blast Big 12 football as overrated?

They are overrated based on perception. When are they the #1 rated conference consecutive years in a row? People think of the Big 12 football as this second powerful conference to the SEC, but IMO its just not true. Baylor and TCU are the definition of soft. The Big 10 and Pac 12 are both better, although Id put the Big 12 over the ACC. Fortunately for us its bball has been very strong. Plus the Big 12 football struggles have extended to the regular nonconference season slate, whereas thr B12 in bball comes just short of dominating in theirs.


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