ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   KU **** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread **** (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=271595)

Saul Good 12-11-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 10268628)
And if we are being detailed and thorough I never said "foul" in my original post.

All I said was an "over the back" was missed.

Now, back to the conference realignment thread you go.

It was "missed"? How was it "missed"? Who missed it, and what would have happened had it not been "missed".

It's okay to admit that you didn't realize that you were unaware of the fact that this rule simply doesn't exist...or...you can go full Frankie.

saphojunkie 12-11-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10268639)
Well...if you can't trust the announcer, who can you trust? Never mind that the next words out of his mouth were, "You don't let players decide the game in the sense that, if he fouls, it's a foul."

Clearly, he has the secret rule book page containing the mysterious "over the back" penalty...aka "the Sasquach" rule.

You are so ****ing stupid it's mind boggling.

Ceej 12-11-2013 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10268652)
It was "missed"? How was it "missed"? Who missed it, and what would have happened had it not been "missed".

It's okay to admit that you didn't realize that you were unaware of the fact that this rule simply doesn't exist...or...you can go full Frankie.


Florida's defender had his dick in Ellis' butt. I'm trying to paint you a picture I'm sure you're familiar with. They jumped simultaneously - and he swung his arm over Ellis' head. There was contact. It was a foul. Did I say it was an "over the back" foul?

But, I'm sure you were glued to the tv watching the game with your KU buddies.

Saul Good 12-11-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 10268641)
You can go over the opponent's back as long as you don't touch him.

You can reach in as long as there isn't contact.

Neither are fouls.

The moment you get them with the body or touch them, it's a foul. This isn't hard.

That's like bitching because Champ Bailey didn't get called for face guarding. I mean, sure, if Bailey hits Bowe in the helmet while face guarding before the ball gets there, a penalty exists...that doesn't make face guarding illegal in the NFL. It just means he committed a different penalty altogether...different in the sense that...you know...it's an actual penalty.

Saul Good 12-11-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 10268663)
Florida's defender had his dick in Ellis' butt. I'm trying to paint you a picture I'm sure you're familiar with. They jumped simultaneously - and he swung his arm over Ellis' head. There was contact. It was a foul. Did I say it was an "over the back" foul?

But, I'm sure you were glued to the tv watching the game with your KU buddies.

Yes. The quoted portion is exactly what you posted.

And no, I wasn't watching it with my KU friends. I was watching it in a bar in Wisconsin. None of my KU friends bitch about non-existent rules.

The whole "dick in butt" thing is called boxing out by Ellis. It's just as illegal for a player to box out as it is for a player to go over the back...ie, it's not illegal.

Silock 12-11-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10268670)
That's like bitching because Champ Bailey didn't get called for face guarding. I mean, sure, if Bailey hits Bowe in the helmet while face guarding before the ball gets there, a penalty exists...that doesn't make face guarding illegal in the NFL. It just means he committed a different penalty altogether...different in the sense that...you know...it's an actual penalty.

Look, you cannot go over an opponent's back in the sense that you cannot push them or make illegal contact in any way. Vertical is fine, but horizontal displacement is not. That's a foul.

That's what people are talking about when they cry "Over the back!" They're not saying that it's a foul because the opponent is behind the player; they're saying it because illegal contact occurred from behind.

What it's called is completely irrelevant. A foul is a foul.

Saul Good 12-11-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 10268683)
Look, you cannot go over an opponent's back in the sense that you cannot push them or make illegal contact in any way. Vertical is fine, but horizontal displacement is not. That's a foul.

That's what people are talking about when they cry "Over the back!" They're not saying that it's a foul because the opponent is behind the player; they're saying it because illegal contact occurred from behind.

What it's called is completely irrelevant. A foul is a foul.

Hmmm,

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10268615)
You're a complete ****ing idiot. I'm truly blown away. You actually know nothing about basketball.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Bs2QbsQS-Jw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Ceej 12-11-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10268680)
Yes. The quoted portion is exactly what you posted.

And no, I wasn't watching it with my KU friends. I was watching it in a bar in Wisconsin. None of my KU friends bitch about non-existent rules.

You are terrible at misinterpreting then. It happens on the Internet.

But, -- of course, the whistle wasn't blown so it wasn't a foul when clearly it was. There was contact and the defender was over the back -- which again, I never called it an over the back foul.

Saul Good 12-11-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 10268694)
You are terrible at misinterpreting then. It happens on the Internet.

But, -- of course, the whistle wasn't blown so it wasn't a foul when clearly it was. There was contact and the defender was over the back -- which again, I never called it an over the back foul.

Okay, Frankie.

Ceej 12-11-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10268699)
Okay, Frankie.

Okay, worthless.

Silock 12-11-2013 01:45 PM

He called it "over the back," but the portion he pointed out was when the player FROM BEHIND displaced the opponent and made illegal contact.

That's a foul, clear as day. If he had jumped straight up, there wouldn't have been a problem with the no-call.

Mr. Plow 12-11-2013 01:51 PM

Wait, what? You can't go through a player to get a rebound....that's called a foul.


EDIT: I quoted the wrong one. This is directly at Saul, not Silock.

Lzen 12-11-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10268287)
You are right, I didn't even think of that. Looks like it has to be FLA. I'd hate to see some shitbox team come into Mecca. Although itd be funny as hell for the SEC to sacrifice the Mizzouchebags to the altar with no return trip back to CoMo

Self talked on his radio show the other day that KU does have a say in it and that they won't be playing MU, period.

noa 12-11-2013 01:58 PM

Over the back is absolutely a foul. It's just not a literal term, it refers to what Silock described. Anyone who claims there's no such foul is ignorant of the terminology and rules.
Posted via Mobile Device

Lzen 12-11-2013 01:59 PM

Saul is trying to make himself look smart, but it's actually doing the opposite.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:01 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.