Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12084075)

How many other Big 12 teams have gone to the Final Four during KU's run of regular season conference titles?

And please stop calling them "Conference Titles". They aren't.

The Conference Title is the Conf Tournament Champion. The regular season title gets you nothing. It's not a bid to the CBB playoffs.

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 12084133)

....Kids aren't choosing UK over KU because of meaningless wins. They're choosing UK because Cal is the best cheater currently in the game....

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12084210)

They are overrated based on perception. When are they the #1 rated conference consecutive years in a row? People think of the Big 12 football as this second powerful conference to the SEC, but IMO its just not true. Baylor and TCU are the definition of soft. The Big 10 and Pac 12 are both better, although Id put the Big 12 over the ACC. Fortunately for us its bball has been very strong. Plus the Big 12 football struggles have extended to the regular nonconference season slate, whereas thr B12 in bball comes just short of dominating in theirs.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12084419)

Astounding you blast Big 12 football as being overrated for being a paper tiger in postseason, but then praise Big 12 basketball as being legit despite the same problem. It's quite amusing.

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 12084133)

Damn, dude, I like you and everything but your takes are shit.

Who gives a **** about how many B12 teams make the FF? Do you really think the best 4 teams in the country reach the FF every year? Do you think the best team in the country wins the NC every year? Do you honestly think the 2010 KU team was worse than UNI? Or anyone else in the country for that matter? Do you think the 2011 team was worse than VCU? Shit, the 2012 KU team was not the 2nd best team in the country by any means.

You know what you can judge? Consistency. Do you know why? Because it's extremely hard to achieve. This is why everyone remembers UCLA and why everyone will always remember coach K and Duke. They repeated and repeated and repeated and keep repeating.

The KU conference title run is historic just like coach K's National Championships are. Do you know why? Because no one else can do that shit. Something like this happens once every few generations and then it becomes history. Everyone remembers Gonzaga's streak and that was in a shitty mid-major conference. Everyone remembers UCLA's streak and that happened when Wooden had salaried players on his teams.

Your recruiting take is laughable. Kids aren't choosing UK over KU because of meaningless wins. They're choosing UK because Cal is the best recruiter in the history of the game. What was Memphis winning when he was getting the Derrick Roses and Tyreke Evanses of the world? Come on, man.

If KU somehow manages to win the Conference 13 or 14 times in a row, that's UNPARALLELED. That's not repeatable. That's history and that's tradition. ****ing Butler can get to Final Fours. Kentucky, the best program in the nation, can't consistently win their shitty to average league and get bounced from the first round of the NIT with a roster full of NBA players.

Shiiiiiiiiiiit.

Your conference tournament take is probably the shittiest take I have ever read on any sports forum and I visit the Phog. That says a lot, bro.

You can be a shit ass 8-10 team in the Big 12 and make the NCAA tournament. EIGHT AND TEN. Let that sink in, man.

No need to win a silly tournament zero people outside of Iowa give a **** about.

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12084075)

The Conference Title is the Conf Tournament Champion. The regular season title gets you nothing. It's not a bid to the CBB playoffs.

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 12084133)

Damn, dude, I like you and everything but your takes are shit.

Who gives a **** about how many B12 teams make the FF? Do you really think the best 4 teams in the country reach the FF every year? Do you think the best team in the country wins the NC every year? Do you honestly think the 2010 KU team was worse than UNI? Or anyone else in the country for that matter? Do you think the 2011 team was worse than VCU? Shit, the 2012 KU team was not the 2nd best team in the country by any means.

You know what you can judge? Consistency. Do you know why? Because it's extremely hard to achieve. This is why everyone remembers UCLA and why everyone will always remember coach K and Duke. They repeated and repeated and repeated and keep repeating.

The KU conference title run is historic just like coach K's National Championships are. Do you know why? Because no one else can do that shit. Something like this happens once every few generations and then it becomes history. Everyone remembers Gonzaga's streak and that was in a shitty mid-major conference. Everyone remembers UCLA's streak and that happened when Wooden had salaried players on his teams.

Your recruiting take is laughable. Kids aren't choosing UK over KU because of meaningless wins. They're choosing UK because Cal is the best recruiter in the history of the game. What was Memphis winning when he was getting the Derrick Roses and Tyreke Evanses of the world? Come on, man.

If KU somehow manages to win the Conference 13 or 14 times in a row, that's UNPARALLELED. That's not repeatable. That's history and that's tradition. ****ing Butler can get to Final Fours. Kentucky, the best program in the nation, can't consistently win their shitty to average league and get bounced from the first round of the NIT with a roster full of NBA players.

Shiiiiiiiiiiit.

Your conference tournament take is probably the shittiest take I have ever read on any sports forum and I visit the Phog. That says a lot, bro.

You can be a shit ass 8-10 team in the Big 12 and make the NCAA tournament. EIGHT AND TEN. Let that sink in, man.

No need to win a silly tournament zero people outside of Iowa give a **** about.

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 12084133)

Damn, dude, I like you and everything but your takes are shit.

Who gives a **** about how many B12 teams make the FF? Do you really think the best 4 teams in the country reach the FF every year? Do you think the best team in the country wins the NC every year? Do you honestly think the 2010 KU team was worse than UNI? Or anyone else in the country for that matter? Do you think the 2011 team was worse than VCU? Shit, the 2012 KU team was not the 2nd best team in the country by any means.

You know what you can judge? Consistency. Do you know why? Because it's extremely hard to achieve. This is why everyone remembers UCLA and why everyone will always remember coach K and Duke. They repeated and repeated and repeated and keep repeating.

The KU conference title run is historic just like coach K's National Championships are. Do you know why? Because no one else can do that shit. Something like this happens once every few generations and then it becomes history. Everyone remembers Gonzaga's streak and that was in a shitty mid-major conference. Everyone remembers UCLA's streak and that happened when Wooden had salaried players on his teams.

Your recruiting take is laughable. Kids aren't choosing UK over KU because of meaningless wins. They're choosing UK because Cal is the best recruiter in the history of the game. What was Memphis winning when he was getting the Derrick Roses and Tyreke Evanses of the world? Come on, man.

If KU somehow manages to win the Conference 13 or 14 times in a row, that's UNPARALLELED. That's not repeatable. That's history and that's tradition. ****ing Butler can get to Final Fours. Kentucky, the best program in the nation, can't consistently win their shitty to average league and get bounced from the first round of the NIT with a roster full of NBA players.

Shiiiiiiiiiiit.

Your conference tournament take is probably the shittiest take I have ever read on any sports forum and I visit the Phog. That says a lot, bro.

You can be a shit ass 8-10 team in the Big 12 and make the NCAA tournament. EIGHT AND TEN. Let that sink in, man.

No need to win a silly tournament zero people outside of Iowa give a **** about.

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 12084447)

You must have missed the part where he talked about the Big 12 basketball dominating the non con regular season but the football not so much. Or you lack reading comprehension. I don't know if that is true, but I understood his point.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12084583)

Lol^^^^^


There's no evidence at all the Big 12 has any differences in "regular season matchup" outcomes between the sports. That was a baseless re-direct that you fell for

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12084646)

Looks like I've been put as a miserable user.

I'd respond to the insults being thrown my way but I can't.

I thought this was CP, didn't know I had ventured into Phog.net

See you guys

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12084646)

Looks like I've been put as a miserable user.

I'd respond to the insults being thrown my way but I can't.

I thought this was CP, didn't know I had ventured into Phog.net

See you guys

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12084646)

Looks like I've been put as a miserable user.

I'd respond to the insults being thrown my way but I can't.

I thought this was CP, didn't know I had ventured into Phog.net

See you guys

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12084646)

Looks like I've been put as a miserable user.

I'd respond to the insults being thrown my way but I can't.

I thought this was CP, didn't know I had ventured into Phog.net

See you guys