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BossChief 01-06-2023 12:58 AM

You guys should probably get used to the idea that the NFL is going to try to continue to build its fan base through the younger generation that emphasize empathy over other factors. I’m not mad that we won’t get to host a 5th AFCCG in a row, Pat is better on the road, anyway.

DRM08 01-06-2023 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16714010)
At least somebody in the media sees the enormous problem with the league changing the rules midstream from a competitive fairness perspective. Just a horrible precedent. Where does it end exactly?

Florio is a lawyer, so he looks at everything through a legal & contractual angle. If nothing else comes out of this, the Bengals are learning a hard lesson that nice guys finish last. They will not be so nice the next time another team has an emergency situation. Buffalo has been playing hardball politics the entire week behind the scenes.

BossChief 01-06-2023 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16714012)
Yeah, it generally helps the Chiefs in the sense that it all but assures us the 1 seed, but it makes the 1 seed less valuable because it moves a game against the 2 seed to a neutral site.

It's still far better to have a bye week than not, and to play the lowest seeded team left in the divisional round. But we did lose something important that we had an even chance of earning otherwise.

You can't really say we got hosed, but if you are irrationally convinced that Buffalo was definitely going to lose on Monday you'd feel we got a raw deal. Bengals still have a lot more to complain about.

If Buffalo won, we would have to play both team (and a third game) to make the Super Bowl

Now, KC just needs to win a home playoff game against a low seed team (after a bye) and then beat the winner of Buffalo/Cincy at a neutral location to go to the superbowl.

I’m not mad if that’s how it ends up.

If you told me that 3 weeks ago, I’d take that in a heartbeat.

Ming the Merciless 01-06-2023 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16714008)
It's absolute bullshit.

When the Bills finally play the Bengals they will regret this. There will be no hand-holding and singing kumbayah.

The Bengals extended an olive branch and the Bills took it and spit on it.

this

can't wait for the whole country to root against the Bills and this bullshit

They ****ed their karma up so bad

**** the bills

Imon Yourside 01-06-2023 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16714013)
You guys should probably get used to the idea that the NFL is going to try to continue to build its fan base through the younger generation that emphasize empathy over other factors. I’m not mad that we won’t get to host a 5th AFCCG in a row, Pat is better on the road, anyway.

You say this now but it's a long offseason.

RINGLEADER 01-06-2023 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16714014)
Florio is a lawyer, so he looks at everything through a legal & contractual angle. If nothing else comes out of this, the Bengals are learning a hard lesson that nice guys finish last. They will not be so nice the next time another team has an emergency situation. Buffalo has been playing hardball politics the entire week behind the scenes.

I completely understand why they didn’t want to play after the injury. I also understand that it may not have been feasible to make it up. And given some of the truly stupid ideas floating around this one doesn’t impact the Chiefs as much as others.

That said, the rules already exist for how to address this. It’s not any more complicated than that.

BossChief 01-06-2023 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16714017)
this

can't wait for the whole country to root against the Bills and this bullshit

They ****ed their karma up so bad

**** the bills

I won’t be shocked if Buffalo gets blown out in their first playoff game.

RINGLEADER 01-06-2023 01:08 AM

The only fans that don’t seem to have a problem with this arrangement are the Bills fans.

Ming the Merciless 01-06-2023 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16714013)
You guys should probably get used to the idea that the NFL is going to try to continue to build its fan base through the younger generation that emphasize empathy over other factors.

LOL

participation trophy generation

RINGLEADER 01-06-2023 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16714021)
I won’t be shocked if Buffalo gets blown out in their first playoff game.

Personally, I hope they lose this week and the Chiefs/Bengals win and this insanity never sees the light of day.

KC_Connection 01-06-2023 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16714014)
Florio is a lawyer, so he looks at everything through a legal & contractual angle. If nothing else comes out of this, the Bengals are learning a hard lesson that nice guys finish last. They will not be so nice the next time another team has an emergency situation. Buffalo has been playing hardball politics the entire week behind the scenes.

That's getting quite clear judging by the bullshit memo Goodell and the competition committee put out today. So much for not them caring about the football.

DRM08 01-06-2023 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 16714019)
I completely understand why they didn’t want to play after the injury. I also understand that it may not have been feasible to make it up. And given some of the truly stupid ideas floating around this one doesn’t impact the Chiefs as much as others.

That said, the rules already exist for how to address this. It’s not any more complicated than that.

They'll need to sharpen the rules in the off-season. Something like the game needs to be played within 2-3 days or there is a forfeit.

I kind of like the idea someone else mentioned to have a bye week for the entire league heading into the playoffs. College football has a pretty long break between regular season and bowl games. An extra bye week at the end of NFL regular season would buy some time for bizarre emergency games to be played.

RINGLEADER 01-06-2023 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16714026)
They'll need to sharpen the rules in the off-season. Something like the game needs to be played within 2-3 days or there is a forfeit.

I kind of like the idea someone else mentioned to have a bye week for the entire league heading into the playoffs. College football has a pretty long break between regular season and bowl games. An extra bye week at the end of NFL regular season would buy some time for bizarre emergency games to be played.

Agree with this 100%. Especially the part about games that are postponed being played or a forfeit issued. If the Bills and/or Bengals just couldn’t go then they get a no L/T/incomplete. Which, BTW, is already in the rule book:

“Emergencies and Unfair Acts” and the specific rule entitled “Competitive Policy for Cancelled Games”: “If a game is cancelled, a team’s standing in its division or in its conference (e.g., qualification as a Wild Card in the playoffs or position in playoff seeding) shall be determined on the basis of its final record. When necessary, playoff tiebreakers shall be calculated according to per game average for all teams.”

KC_Connection 01-06-2023 01:18 AM

So to summarize, the league has rules for cancelled games that result in the standings being decided by win percentage. The Chiefs (likely) end up first seed by win percentage. The league decides they can't allow such a finish for sympathy/optics reasons, all because the Bills didn't play a game (a game they willingly chose not to play that was also the toughest game of their season on the road) and instead decides to make an unpreceded rule change to limit the value of the #1 seed and benefit Buffalo in a potential AFC Championship game instead.

In doing so, the NFL absolutely screws over the Bengals (who would have likely been the #2 seed had their game been played and may very well have been the #1 seed) and Ravens (who could have won the AFC North and now don't have the opportunity).

This is how a billion dollar sports league conducts itself a week before the playoffs start? Yeah the Chiefs might have made out the best of this shit sandwich of a situation the NFL created for itself but how is any of it OK?

DRM08 01-06-2023 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16714025)
That's getting quite clear judging by the bullshit memo Goodell and the competition committee put out today. So much for not them caring about the football.

I think it was clear before the official decision was handed down. Credible media people were floating stuff out there that seemed illogical & extremely favorable to Buffalo. I'm just glad some of those ideas apparently got shit-canned.


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