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Mecca 02-10-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477746)
Actually, in all 403 posts in this thread, I haven't heard one person say that they wanted to pass on a QB this year and draft one in 2010.

How about the guy comparing QB's to rims?

Basileus777 02-10-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477746)
Actually, in all 403 posts in this thread, I haven't heard one person say that they wanted to pass on a QB this year and draft one in 2010.

Zach wanted to pass on one in the first round.



Oh, and **** Matt Bonner.

doomy3 02-10-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5477754)
Zach wanted to pass on one in the first round.

Oh, and **** Matt Bonner.

But not to draft one next year. He just said he wasn't sold on those two guys this year. That's a valid opinion. Might be mine or yours, but that's OK.

doomy3 02-10-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5477754)
Zach wanted to pass on one in the first round.



Oh, and **** Matt Bonner.

And who's Matt Bonner?

Basileus777 02-10-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477760)
And who's Matt Bonner?

Some scrub killing the Nets right now. I'm watching basketball and felt the need to say that.

Smed1065 02-10-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 5477679)
I think a top 5 pick QB is like the rims. So few of those guys are really worth the money. You just don't know and it's fine if you have the luxury of f-ing around with them, but we don't we have real needs at other positions. I just don't want to be sitting here next october bitching about how Sanchez doesn't have any time to throw or how it sucks that he had a season ending injury in the first game of the season because our o-line is crap.

I am all for drafting a QB!

I can see the pro QB side using the same excuses like no time to throw, sacked, hurried, read the defense to make a decision next year when we do draft a QB, if they play bad or are outplayed by one of the "bad" prospects this year as the other side is using now for TT. I can also see the reason if it is Sanchez of the "well he was only a starter" for a year in college come up. A #3 pick after getting drafted can not use that excuse since it is being used now to debuke the best foot work, pro-style, etc. etc. IMO

I believe the O-line is important due to the fact if you would rather have an O-line learn, gel and get cohesive first or would you rather have a good prospective QB have to overcome the fight against having no line and overcome the jump from college to the NFL and risk the most important cog getting hurt or a kink in his confidence?

I feel we have been without a self developed QB for so long at this point that I am willing to take the risk on the QB at this point to provide more time for the QB to develop.

I have a hard time seeing where one side is absolutely right and the other side is wrong at this point considering our history.

Mecca 02-10-2009 08:29 PM

You all do know we could pick a QB first and still greatly improve the line right?

ChiefsCountry 02-10-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477794)
You all do know we could pick a QB first and still greatly improve the line right?

Nope we need all first round picks on the OL.

By the way you need to put those fine USC asses back in your sig. Maybe with Sanchez squeezed between them. :D

Mecca 02-10-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5477796)
Nope we need all first round picks on the OL.

By the way you need to put those fine USC asses back in your sig. Maybe with Sanchez squeezed between them. :D

LOL I'll switch it back after the draft.

MIAdragon 02-10-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477794)
You all do know we could pick a QB first and still greatly improve the line right?

As long as we get better, yay!

Danman 02-10-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 5477679)
I think a top 5 pick QB is like the rims. So few of those guys are really worth the money. You just don't know and it's fine if you have the luxury of f-ing around with them, but we don't we have real needs at other positions. I just don't want to be sitting here next october bitching about how Sanchez doesn't have any time to throw or how it sucks that he had a season ending injury in the first game of the season because our o-line is crap.

We have real needs at QB. I know a lot of people want Thigpen to start next year, but what happens if Pioli determines he can't hit the broad side of a barn from watching film, or his terrible footwork. What if Thigpen's cut before training camp. He probably won't be cut, you need arms in camp.

As for the top 5 players and being worth the money--that's the cost of doing business in the NFL. It's hard for us to comprehend spending that kind of money on a player, but if that's the going rate for a legitimate franchise QB you have to get him. Many teams draft a QB then fill in the other positions around him.

Us bitching cuz Sanchez has no time to throw in October? OK I'll sign up for that--I'm sure I'll bitch too, but I'll be thrilled that the Chiefs are one step closer to a championship caliber team.

DeezNutz 02-10-2009 08:50 PM

Not having a legit franchise QB is a lot like a rimjob. I'll give 'em that.

OnTheWarpath15 02-10-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danman (Post 5477811)
We have real needs at QB. I know a lot of people want Thigpen to start next year, but what happens if Pioli determines he can't hit the broad side of a barn from watching film, or his terrible footwork. What if Thigpen's cut before training camp. He probably won't be cut, you need arms in camp.

As for the top 5 players and being worth the money--that's the cost of doing business in the NFL. It's hard for us to comprehend spending that kind of money on a player, but if that's the going rate for a legitimate franchise QB you have to get him. Many teams draft a QB then fill in the other positions around him.

Us bitching cuz Sanchez has no time to throw in October? OK I'll sign up for that--I'm sure I'll bitch too, but I'll be thrilled that the Chiefs are one step closer to a championship caliber team.

Anyone else seeing 2009 N00b of the Year out of this guy?

Good work. Rep.

OnTheWarpath15 02-10-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5477831)
Not having a legit franchise QB is a lot like a rimjob. I'll give 'em that.

LMAO

chiefzilla1501 02-10-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477031)
Now I fully admit it isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be on this forum but I've yet to figure out this fixation with him. It's really bad at some other unnamed forums..

I honestly have no way of comprehending what it's about. It's like everything people said about Croyle has now been lumped onto Thigpen. "Well um he's the guy we don't need another QB"

The worst part is the people who don't want a QB this year then say well if Thigpen doesn't work out we can just take Bradford or McCoy, it's like peoples brains fell out.

I don't have a problem with drafting a QB in the top 5 and I think many people don't. Those who believe that Thigpen should be the outright starter and that no competition should be brought in, I feel, are in the minority among fans with any knowledge of the game.

That being said, Mecca, I would also argue "why are there so many so fixated on wanting Thigpen to fail?" There is just as big of a contingency of fans who want Thigpen cut or who believe he is nothing better than a #3 QB, given the season he had last year.

My pet peeve is not people who want to draft a QB. It's those who want to guarantee a starting job to a QB taken in the top 5, and who have doomed Thigpen to failure before he has had a full shot to prove himself and will use every last excuse to justify why he's a lousy QB. That's where most of the frustration, at least on this board, seems to come from.


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