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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-22-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 5516996)
I damn gaurantee you if the draft were next week Pioli passes on Sanchez with the 3rd pick with what he saw today and takes Aaron Curry. Curry is far safer and Pioli's rep is on the line with making his 1st pick as the new Chiefs GM and you better not miss with the 3rd pick as a new GM. Sanchez at 'THIS' point is too risky for him IMO.

Matt Ryan was not that risky of a pick last yr because he started far more games and did not play behind a "stellar of a line" performing just as well as Sanchez did this yr. Ryan had it alot tougher IMO which showcased his metal being tested more and passing with flying colors. Sanchez has not had enough time to showcase this IMO.

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5516998)
the nfl.com's clips suck arse. They show guys running the 40 but not making throws.

Pat White clearly had the best day which gives you an idea of how bad the QB class is this year.

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5516999)
No, there was nothing dire. He simply failed to live up to the hype. It happens. However, because he went into the combine as the #2 QB, he needed to be better than he was.

I think it's time to just torch this ****ing thread. You three are goddamned idiots.

chiefzilla1501 02-22-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5516946)
Yes, we should either draft a SAM Cover backer, a backup LT, or another defensive tackle.

8-8, you're our only hope :grovel:

You're right. The Chiefs should just ignore all workouts and evaluations completely and draft a QB no matter what, because there's nobody else worth taking. They should definitely back in to the pick. That's a great idea. So if all the scouts, including the Chiefs', grade Sanchez as a #15 pick at best (hypothetically, of course), they should take him no matter what.

There are other options. If the Chiefs move to a 3-4, BJ Raji is not "another defensive tackle." He becomes the only player on the Chiefs' roster capable of playing nose tackle--the most important position on defense in a 3-4. If the Chiefs like Crabtree or Maclin enough, those are two players who play important positions under a coach who loves receivers. If you go to the school of "you can never have too many cornerbacks" argument, than Malcolm Jenkins also becomes an option.

All of a sudden, it doesn't sound so stupid to even consider trading out of the #3 pick anymore. Does it?

DeezNutz 02-22-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 5516996)
I damn gaurantee you if the draft were next week Pioli passes on Sanchez with the 3rd pick with what he saw today and takes Aaron Curry. Curry is far safer and Pioli's rep is on the line with making his 1st pick as the new Chiefs GM and you better not miss with the 3rd pick as a new GM. Sanchez at 'THIS' point is too risky for him IMO.

Matt Ryan was not that risky of a pick last yr because he started far more games and did not play behind a "stellar of a line" performing just as well as Sanchez did this yr. Ryan had it alot tougher IMO which showcased his metal being tested more and passing with flying colors. Sanchez has not had enough time to showcase this IMO.

Safe means nothing. Eliminate this from the lexicon.

If we just hired a GM who is interested in making the "safe" pick because of job security, we've been sold a bill of goods and all the success in NE was because of the Hoodie.

Mr. Laz 02-22-2009 09:12 PM

so many 'true fans' showing up ..........









and they aren't even Chiefs fans. :hmmm:

Chiefshrink 02-22-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5516951)
No, we want ****ING INFORMATION. Jesus ****in' Christ with this guy...

Info? Just watch the combine and then see if you will want to spend your 1st rd pick "putting your beak around Sanchez's cock"?:shrug: Maybe just a bad day but no 1st rd performance that is for sure.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-22-2009 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 5517027)
Info? Just watch the combine and then see if you will want to spend your 1st rd pick "putting your beak around Sanchez's cock"?:shrug: Maybe just a bad day but no 1st rd performance that is for sure.

And where do I "watch the combine at"?

chiefzilla1501 02-22-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5517019)
Safe means nothing. Eliminate this from the lexicon.

If we just hired a GM who is interested in making the "safe" pick because of job security, we've been sold a bill of goods and all the success in NE was because of the Hoodie.

While that's true, given that most teams have taken a gamble on a first round QB the last 10 years, I don't think it's accurate to say that taking a quarterback in the first round is a risk (as I so often hear). It's a pretty conservative play, actually.

Chiefshrink 02-22-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5517018)
You're right. The Chiefs should just ignore all workouts and evaluations completely and draft a QB no matter what, because there's nobody else worth taking. They should definitely back in to the pick. That's a great idea. So if all the scouts, including the Chiefs', grade Sanchez as a #15 pick at best (hypothetically, of course), they should take him no matter what.

There are other options. If the Chiefs move to a 3-4, BJ Raji is not "another defensive tackle." He becomes the only player on the Chiefs' roster capable of playing nose tackle--the most important position on defense in a 3-4. If the Chiefs like Crabtree or Maclin enough, those are two players who play important positions under a coach who loves receivers. If you go to the school of "you can never have too many cornerbacks" argument, than Malcolm Jenkins also becomes an option.

All of a sudden, it doesn't sound so stupid to even consider trading out of the #3 pick anymore. Does it?

Hell no it doesn't and quite frankly with only 7 picks and no surefire Franchise QB's sitting there I hope the hell Pioli trades down to acquire more picks either picking up another 1st or a couple of 2nds or 3rds.

milkman 02-22-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 5517027)
Info? Just watch the combine and then see if you will want to spend your 1st rd pick "putting your beak around Sanchez's cock"?:shrug: Maybe just a bad day but no 1st rd performance that is for sure.

Pioli says that the combine is a part of the process, but that how they performed on the field in games is far more important in the evaluation process.

Chiefshrink 02-22-2009 09:17 PM

Hopefully Pioli will start shopping that 3rd pick by playing some good NFL Poker.

Mr. Laz 02-22-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5517030)
And where do I "watch the combine at"?

NFL Network FTW!!!!!!!11111


i have all the workouts taped ... they break them down by position and then show them all together

Just Passin' By 02-22-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5517014)
I think it's time to just torch this ****ing thread. You three are goddamned idiots.

Look, dipshit, I wasn't putting the guy down. Sanchez wasn't horrible, but he needed to be better because of his perceived position. Because he wasn't, his performance is hurting his standing, be it by a little or a lot. As I've noted in other posts, this can be overcome by having a good pro day.

milkman 02-22-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 5517040)
Hopefully Pioli will start shopping that 3rd pick by playing some good NFL Poker.

Just who the **** do you think is going to want to trade up, and who the hell do you think they will want to trade up for?

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-22-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5517042)
NFL Network FTW!!!!!!!11111


i have all the workouts taped ... they break them down by position and then show them all together

I don't have a subscription to NFL Network.

Chiefshrink 02-22-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5517032)
While that's true, given that most teams have taken a gamble on a first round QB the last 10 years, I don't think it's accurate to say that taking a quarterback in the first round is a risk (as I so often hear). It's a pretty conservative play, actually.

Akili,Alex, Joey, David, Tim etc..... do I go on? This last yr was a pleasant surprise for sure.


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