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BossChief 02-08-2010 02:02 PM

The pick 6 was a career defining moment. To me, it showed that he isnt clutch like the GOAT has to be.

I cant see Montana throwing that ball in that situation.

Montana is and always will be the GOAT.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-08-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6516406)
The pick 6 was a career defining moment. To me, it showed that he isnt clutch like the GOAT has to be.

I cant see Montana throwing that ball in that situation.

Montana is and always will be the GOAT.


That is precisely where I'm at on Manning. He's still the best QB in the league, IMO, but no longer even in contention for the GOAT. Not to say he can't get back there, but he needs about 3 SB's IMO at this point.

Sure-Oz 02-08-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6516412)
That is precisely where I'm at on Manning. He's still the best QB in the league, IMO, but no longer even in contention for the GOAT. Not to say he can't get back there, but he needs about 3 SB's IMO at this point.

Agreed, it seems he loses against other really good QB's

That throw ti Wayne was epic fail

Mr. Flopnuts 02-08-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6516416)
Agreed, it seems he loses against other really good QB's

That throw ti Wayne was epic fail

He had Collie wide open not even 3 yards to his right from where Wayne was at. That throw cost his team the game. It was Matt Cassell like decision making.

Sure-Oz 02-08-2010 02:14 PM

btw where was peyton to shake hands? he pulled a brady and took off quick

Dr. Van Halen 02-08-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6516326)
Suffice to say I disagree with, erm, everything you just said.

Wayne has the responsibility to cut off the defender. I know this because ESPN just said it. :rolleyes: Roll eyes!

As a Saints fan, that likely will be one of my favorite plays of all time.

Chiefs Pantalones 02-08-2010 02:26 PM

Manning is not the GOAT, nor was he before the pick 6 last night. When they went down 24-17 you could see it in Manning's eyes when he came onto the field. Panic. He wasn't calm at all. Anyone could see that.

Chiefnj2 02-08-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6516439)
btw where was peyton to shake hands? he pulled a brady and took off quick

There was an oreo doublestuff championship after the game he had to get to.

DaKCMan AP 02-08-2010 02:44 PM

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/NBCSport...21.ss_full.jpg

NTTAWWT

Sure-Oz 02-08-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6516511)

ROFL

Amnorix 02-08-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen (Post 6516455)
Wayne has the responsibility to cut off the defender. I know this because ESPN just said it. :rolleyes: Roll eyes!

As a Saints fan, that likely will be one of my favorite plays of all time.

Wayne's failure to cut off the defender doesn't making up for the epic fail of throwing to the WRONG freaking guy in the first place.

Look, Wayne didn't fall. He didn't give up on the route, or run the wrong route. He didn't display alligator arms or have the ball carom off his chest or hands up in the air. Manning went to the WRONG guy. And how Wayne is supposed to know that a DB is roaring in to cut him off and take the ball to the house I'm not sure.

Sounds like ESPN is just trying to defend the golden child. That's fine, but honestly, watch the tape. It's not hard.

Chiefs Pantalones 02-08-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6516543)
Wayne's failure to cut off the defender doesn't making up for the epic fail of throwing to the WRONG freaking guy in the first place.

Look, Wayne didn't fall. He didn't give up on the route, or run the wrong route. He didn't display alligator arms or have the ball carom off his chest or hands up in the air. Manning went to the WRONG guy. And how Wayne is supposed to know that a DB is roaring in to cut him off and take the ball to the house I'm not sure.

Sounds like ESPN is just trying to defend the golden child. That's fine, but honestly, watch the tape. It's not hard.

Yep. Manning even said in the postgame that Porter just made a good play. He read the route.

OnTheWarpath15 02-08-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 6516571)
Yep. Manning even said in the postgame that Porter just made a good play. He read the route.

Porter was on Sirius this morning and said that INT was the result of film study.

Apparently, the Colts had a tendency to go to that combo route on 3rd down. Porter said when Collie went in short motion from that side, he was fully expecting the short in that Wayne ran, and jumped it.

That still doesn't excuse Manning for making a poor read. What's funny, is that he was eyeballing Collie and then for some reason whipped it over to Wayne, really almost without looking.

If you heard the Saints radio call of the play, you'd think the pass was actually intended for Collie.

DBOSHO 02-08-2010 04:10 PM

To dakcmanap, that picture is ****ing great.

great job

OnTheWarpath15 02-08-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6516707)
To dakcmanap, that picture is ****ing great.

great job

Did you mean to post from this account, or the "Tom Dragon" account?


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