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DaneMcCloud 10-18-2009 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6186106)
12-20, or thereaboust.

But it's great, cuz you never have to refresh.

And Dane, there is apparently an ignore function there.
Thanks. I'll check it out next week.

While it was nice to watch the Chiefs win, it would have been much nicer without all the obnoxious noise coming from his direction.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-18-2009 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6186162)
That is a fair take Hamas.

But in all honesty I don't think Sanchez was ever in the mind Pioli. During his very first pc he said Matt was a special person and player. I knew right then he would be our QB.
Regardless of whether or not he was "in his mind", he's a player. A player at the most important position. One which the Chiefs didn't have and had access to. And he sought another player. That has to be considered in the evaluation of him.

SenselessChiefsFan 10-18-2009 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 6185400)
So far this year Sanchez has looked a lot, lot better than Manning did his rookie year. And Manning had a great O-line, Marvin Harrison, and Marshall Faulk.

Just a little....err.... a lot of revisionist history there.

Coach 10-18-2009 08:30 PM
Looks like this thread lost it's burst.....

chiefzilla1501 10-18-2009 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6186053)
I'm not asking you to admit your wrong, I'm asking you not to stoop to the level of these other mouthbreathers who make bogus claims, and aren't willing to, or can't back them up. You made a claim that could be called hyperbolic at best, and flat out bullshit at worst. When called on it, you backed away. That's weak, and you're better than that, IMO.

And Lemon Pie pretty much has the pulse of this whole situation - there are numerous posters that troll, just looking to bait a certain handful of Sanchez backers.
I didn't back away from it. To prove your point, I have to comb through threads and find the exact page where the thread swerved. I'm not going to do that and it's unreasonable to expect me to.

And as I've said many times, the blame goes both ways. Pro Sanchez and anti-Sanchez. I've never said that pro Sanchez supporters are the only ones doing this.

It's not hyperbolic at best. Milkman brought up the point that anytime anybody did a critique of Cassel, there was always a Sanchez supporter to swerve the thread into a comparison to Sanchez. I don't see why I have to do the research on that when it's completely common sense.

And I don't see why I have to do the research on the idea that Sanchez supporters didn't use every available opportunity to point out on a ton of threads the comparison between Sanchez vs. Cassel when Sanchez was 2-0 and Cassel was 0-1, and Sanchez was 3-0 and Cassel was 0-2.

I don't care if you think it's a cop-out. I think it's a huge waste of time to search for a half hour to argue against a common sense claim. If you honestly believe that any "pro Sanchez" discussion came about because they were baited by an anti-Sanchez person, that's a pretty one-sided accusation.

dirk digler 10-18-2009 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6186166)
I agree.

But Pioli's scope has been pretty ****ing narrow thus far.
Very true.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6186171)
Regardless of whether or not he was "in his mind", he's a player. A player at the most important position. One which the Chiefs didn't have and had access to. And he sought another player. That has to be considered in the evaluation of him.
I don't have a problem with that. But at the same time I think Pioli should be given time to build his team without people freaking out. But today's NFL fan has very little patience.

Marcellus 10-18-2009 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6186184)
Just a little....err.... a lot of revisionist history there.
Did Manning throw 5 picks in a game his rookie year?:hmmm:

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-18-2009 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6186196)
I didn't back away from it. To prove your point, I have to comb through threads and find the exact page where the thread swerved. I'm not going to do that and it's unreasonable to expect me to.

And as I've said many times, the blame goes both ways. Pro Sanchez and anti-Sanchez.

It's not hyperbolic at best. Milkman brought up the point that anytime anybody did a critique of Cassel, there was always a Sanchez supporter to swerve the thread into a comparison to Sanchez. I don't see why I have to do the research on that when it's completely common sense.

And I don't see why I have to do the research on the idea that Sanchez supporters didn't use every available opportunity to point out on a ton of threads the comparison between Sanchez vs. Cassel when Sanchez was 2-0 and Cassel was 0-1, and Sanchez was 3-0 and Cassel was 0-2.

I don't care if you think it's a cop-out. I think it's a huge waste of time to search for a half hour to argue against a common sense claim.
That is absolutely not true. Milkman said every time he critiqued Cassel someone jumped his nuts about wanting Sanchez.

SenselessChiefsFan 10-18-2009 08:32 PM
Sanchez went to a dream situation. Even today, he had 200 yards of run support and still managed to lose the game.

Unheard of. Five picks, ahead most of the game, and 200 yards of run support? Crazy.

He is a rookie, and he will get better.... but if the Chiefs had drafted Sanchez.... they would be 0-6 and Sanchez would look like a bust.

stevieray 10-18-2009 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6186013)
But not nearly as hilarious as dressing up as a dead man that died on the toilet for a sporting event.

Seeing as you're getting old are you going to update and become fat Elvis?
ironic coming from the guy who is fifty pounds overweight...old? wanna wager I'm in better shape twenty years older?

people who like/dislike Elvis:

Eleventy billion>100

OnTheWarpath15 10-18-2009 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6186202)
That is absolutely not true. Milkman said every time he critiqued Cassel someone jumped his nuts about wanting Sanchez.
Exactly.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-18-2009 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6186203)
Sanchez went to a dream situation. Even today, he had 200 yards of run support and still managed to lose the game.

Unheard of. Five picks, ahead most of the game, and 200 yards of run support? Crazy.

He is a rookie, and he will get better.... but if the Chiefs had drafted Sanchez.... they would be 0-6 and Sanchez would look like a bust.
False choice. No one would argue that he should start behind this line. He's too young.

Marcellus 10-18-2009 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6186196)
I didn't back away from it. To prove your point, I have to comb through threads and find the exact page where the thread swerved. I'm not going to do that and it's unreasonable to expect me to.

And as I've said many times, the blame goes both ways. Pro Sanchez and anti-Sanchez. I've never said that pro Sanchez supporters are the only ones doing this.

It's not hyperbolic at best. Milkman brought up the point that anytime anybody did a critique of Cassel, there was always a Sanchez supporter to swerve the thread into a comparison to Sanchez. I don't see why I have to do the research on that when it's completely common sense.

And I don't see why I have to do the research on the idea that Sanchez supporters didn't use every available opportunity to point out on a ton of threads the comparison between Sanchez vs. Cassel when Sanchez was 2-0 and Cassel was 0-1, and Sanchez was 3-0 and Cassel was 0-2.

I don't care if you think it's a cop-out. I think it's a huge waste of time to search for a half hour to argue against a common sense claim. If you honestly believe that any "pro Sanchez" discussion came about because they were baited by an anti-Sanchez person, that's a pretty one-sided accusation.

This description of the situation is spot on. This.

OnTheWarpath15 10-18-2009 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6186203)
Sanchez went to a dream situation. Even today, he had 200 yards of run support and still managed to lose the game.

Unheard of. Five picks, ahead most of the game, and 200 yards of run support? Crazy.

He is a rookie, and he will get better.... but if the Chiefs had drafted Sanchez.... they would be 0-6 and Sanchez would look like a bust.
Shame the NFL is locking up the doors for good after the 2009 season.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-18-2009 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6186218)
This description of the situation is spot on. This.
Except it's predicated upon poor reading comprehension that gets what milkman said 100% incorrect.


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