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RNR 01-04-2010 01:05 PM

The 49ers once offered up Joe Montana for a 8th round pick back when the draft went 12 rounds. There were no takers on what everyone felt was a skinny weak armed QB. Bill Walsh came to the 49ers and the rest is history. I am sure when Bledsoe was king in N.E. if somebody had offered up a decent round draft pick Brady would be playing somewhere else. Deron Cherry was a free agent punter and was cut and later resigned. If anyone had even tossed a late rounder they could have had him. I am certain Atlanta wished they could have given back that 2nd round pick they got for Favre over the years. It is an interesting tidbit but these type of stories are very common in the NFL.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-04-2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6408422)
Who said anything about replacing him how about just 2nd string? You realize he got just 8 attempts in 2 games when LJ was out?

Also LJ wasn't a 1700 yd rusher in 2007 he was a washed 559 yd RB

Jamaal Charles was a rookie in 2008. At the beginning of 2008, Larry Johnson was a year removed from back to back 1700 yard seasons.

This isn't that hard to understand.

DaWolf 01-04-2010 01:06 PM

I think we also need to look at what happened to Charles earlier in the year and perhaps admit that in the case of Jamaal Charles, he ended up being motivated by the early season inactivation and seeing guys around him being cut or traded, and ended up taking his job more seriously, worked on his fumble issues, hit the film room, and made sure he started treating every carry like his last.

He's certainly a better player right now than he was last year or at the beginning of this year. I highly doubt if he was the starter from game 1 he'd be as good as we've seen him be here in the 2nd half of the year. And for that, I'd give Charles and the staff credit for turning him into the player we've been seeing...

DeezNutz 01-04-2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6408430)
The 49ers once offered up Joe Montana for a 8th round pick back when the draft went 12 rounds. There were no takers on what everyone felt was a skinny weak armed QB. Bill Walsh came to the 49ers and the rest is history. I am sure when Bledsoe was king in N.E. if somebody had offered up a decent round draft pick Brady would be playing somewhere else. Deron Cherry was a free agent punter and was cut and later resigned. If anyone had even tossed a late rounder they could have had him. I am certain Atlanta wished they could have given back that 2nd round pick they got for Favre over the years. It is an interesting tidbit but these type of stories are very common in the NFL.

More slobbering, incoherent nonsense from a Raiders fan. Typical.

OnTheWarpath15 01-04-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6408422)
Who said anything about replacing him how about just 2nd string? You realize he got just 8 attempts in 2 games when LJ was out?

Also LJ wasn't a 1700 yd rusher in 2007 he was a washed 559 yd RB

Do you understand what "a year removed" means?

Damn.

Hootie 01-04-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6408308)
Wow, Hootie really knocked it out of the park there, fellas.

LMAO

do you really want me to go cherrypick every single thing I said that was dead on this year?

I could make hamas look like a damn fool in a thread where I was arguing Tony Romo was a great QB and he said he was one of the worst QB's in the league...but I don't feel like taking the effort to go dig up old threads...

Or perhaps I could make Mecca look like an idiot when he was bashing me before the season started for saying Chris Johnson was the best RB in the league...

Man I'm such a moron...I never offer any football takes...etc. etc. etc.

Mecca tells me Carson Palmer is a top QB in the league...Carson Palmer can't even come close to holding half of Tony Romo's jock.

FAX 01-04-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6408425)
Our advantage, however, is that other GMs are somewhat fearful to do business with the Executive of the Decade, lest he surely fleece them.

Quite so, Confucius. Many are the NFL owners whose undergarments now permanently reside in Pioli's closet.

They probably all wanted Charles and could see that he was a 2000 yard-a-year type of player, but were only willing to give up a 7th rounder and a bag of towels out of fear.

FAX

Titty Meat 01-04-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6408442)
do you really want me to go cherrypick every single thing I said that was dead on this year?

I could make hamas look like a damn fool in a thread where I was arguing Tony Romo was a great QB and he said he was one of the worst QB's in the league...but I don't feel like taking the effort to go dig up old threads...

Or perhaps I could make Mecca look like an idiot when he was bashing me before the season started for saying Chris Johnson was the best RB in the league...

Man I'm such a moron...I never offer any football takes...etc. etc. etc.

Mecca tells me Carson Palmer is a top QB in the league...Carson Palmer can't even come close to holding half of Tony Romo's jock.

Save this post for when Romo ****s up in the playoffs.

King_Chief_Fan 01-04-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6408437)
I think we also need to look at what happened to Charles earlier in the year and perhaps admit that in the case of Jamaal Charles, he ended up being motivated by the early season inactivation and seeing guys around him being cut or traded, and ended up taking his job more seriously, worked on his fumble issues, hit the film room, and made sure he started treating every carry like his last.

He's certainly a better player right now than he was last year or at the beginning of this year. I highly doubt if he was the starter from game 1 he'd be as good as we've seen him be here in the 2nd half of the year. And for that, I'd give Charles and the staff credit for turning him into the player we've been seeing...

this makes sense

OnTheWarpath15 01-04-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6408442)
do you really want me to go cherrypick every single thing I said that was dead on this year?

I could make hamas look like a damn fool in a thread where I was arguing Tony Romo was a great QB and he said he was one of the worst QB's in the league...but I don't feel like taking the effort to go dig up old threads...

Or perhaps I could make Mecca look like an idiot when he was bashing me before the season started for saying Chris Johnson was the best RB in the league...

Man I'm such a moron...I never offer any football takes...etc. etc. etc.

Mecca tells me Carson Palmer is a top QB in the league...Carson Palmer can't even come close to holding half of Tony Romo's jock.

Aw, what's wrong?

Did I hurt your feelings?

You have no problem dishing it out, usually invented in your own head, but you sure don't have the balls to take it.

Hootie 01-04-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6408308)
Wow, Hootie really knocked it out of the park there, fellas.

LMAO

hey i just read that thread...

what exactly did I not "knock out of the park"...?

Are you kidding?

I guessed Hali would have 10 sacks, he had 8.5...I guessed Larry would have 85 yards that game...I think he had around that many...I said Jared Allen could be just as good as DeMarcus Ware in a 3-4...and I still think that...

You're a ****ing moron man...plain and simple. Another know-it-all with an anti-Chiefs agenda that doesn't really know shit...

RNR 01-04-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6408440)
More slobbering, incoherent nonsense from a Raiders fan. Typical.

LMAO I have to do something to pass the time while my favorite team sets the alltime record for 11+ loss seasons~

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-04-2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 6408428)
So, you are now saying that Jamaal Charles is not only a third down back?

Amazingly....and hold on to your seats for this one, he did more than what he was drafted for.

WOW!!

The fact that he was drafted as a change of pace, pass receiving, 3rd down and KR, and that he was great value for that does not obviate him from being more than that, nor does the drafting of someone mean that they are relegated to that role for their entire career.

He was drafted to be Lightning to Johnson's thunder, or Jones to his Barber. And he did that amazingly well when given the opportunity.

Here's the amazingly simplistic fact of the matter. Jamaal Charles is a football player. Larry Johnson is also a football player. When looking at them both in 2009, our FO decided that Johnson > Charles, when droves of people on here, who themselves did not see the extent of Charles' potential, even then said that Charles was better than LJ, hence my quote from week 2 upon his deactivation.

That's damning

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-04-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6408456)
hey i just read that thread...

what exactly did I not "knock out of the park"...?

Are you kidding?

I guessed Hali would have 10 sacks, he had 8.5...I guessed Larry would have 85 yards that game...I think he had around that many...I said Jared Allen could be just as good as DeMarcus Ware in a 3-4...and I still think that...

You're a ****ing moron man...plain and simple. Another know-it-all with an anti-Chiefs agenda that doesn't really know shit...

Like the fact that Larry Johnson is better than Jamaal Charles?

wild1 01-04-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6408441)
Do you understand what "a year removed" means?

Damn.

Massaging the data to skim the fact that LJ hasn't done anything special in any of the last 3 seasons?


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