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ToxSocks 01-03-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 10331980)
People have been making stupid choices in the name of smoking weed for a long time. This will bring in morons in droves.

I disagree. I don't see how you can come to that conclusion at all as far as permanent residency. Tourism, of course. But people packing up and moving to CO? I don't think so. There will likely be an extremely small group of smokers and entrepreneurs.

Anyone who is so in love with Pot that they'd consider moving likely already has an abundant source. Most smokers already have a source for getting weed.

Being able to walk into a store to buy pot simply isn't enough incentive to make a permanent residency change for most users. It's just as easy to drive to your dealers house or call for a delivery.

underEJ 01-03-2014 02:59 PM

There may be an initial surge of morons particularly ones who see an opportunity to supply non-green states, but dust settles and the benefit of open use for regular people free from the risk of prosecution and 'just say no' rhetoric will likely spread legalization to other states faster than the destruction of Colorado's workforce could happen. Just add a when and why did you relocate section to your interview process if you are a business owner worried about inadvertently hiring some of those morons when they run out of people in other states to do pot business with and finally do have to get a job.

jspchief 01-03-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10331995)
I disagree. I don't see how you can come to that conclusion at all as far as permanent residency. Tourism, of course. But people packing up and moving to CO? I don't think so. There will likely be an extremely small group of smokers and entrepreneurs.

Anyone who is so in love with Pot that they'd consider moving likely already has an abundant source. Most smokers already have a source for getting weed.

Being able to walk into a store to buy pot simply isn't enough incentive to make a permanent residency change for most users. It's just as easy to drive to your dealers house or call for a delivery.

People risk their jobs daily to smoke pot.

ToxSocks 01-03-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 10332047)
People risk their jobs daily to smoke pot.

There is a huge difference between taking the risk of MAYBE getting caught with a dirty piss test and completely leaving behind your community, friends, family and Job simply because store bought pot is slightly more convenient than calling your friend.

We have to apply some common sense here and not just stick to your preconceived idea of a pothead.

Also, any pothead that can afford to pack up and start a new life in a new state is likely already a productive person and will only continue to be productive in CO.

Im sorry, but the lazy, has no job, sits at home with ma and has no ambition kind of pot head won't have the resources or desire to move to CO. How is a poor, lazy stoner going to move to another state?

Again, apply some common sense to the situation.

listopencil 01-03-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10332087)
There is a huge difference between taking the risk of MAYBE getting caught with a dirty piss test and completely leaving behind your community, friends, family and Job simply because store bought pot is slightly more convenient than calling your friend.

We have to apply some common sense here and not just stick to your preconceived idea of a pothead.

Also, any pothead that can afford to pack up and start a new life in a new state is likely already a productive person and will only continue to be productive in CO.

Im sorry, but the lazy, has no job, sits at home with ma and has no ambition kind of pot head won't have the resources or desire to move to CO. How is a poor, lazy stoner going to move to another state?

Again, apply some common sense to the situation.

Hitchhiking (or tagging along) with someone else. It happens a lot.

listopencil 01-03-2014 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 10331948)
Employers still have to deal with insurance. What will it do to their workman's comp rates if they don't drug screen?

From my brief research it could screw them over quite a bit.

Rain Man 01-03-2014 03:21 PM

So detoxing, it sounds like you assume that the risk of arrest is zero? I was assuming that that would be the draw to the archetypal stoner, not just convenience.

I would swear that one of the big arguments for legalization was that assertion that millions of innocent marijuana users are languishing in jails.

KC native 01-03-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10332087)

Again, apply some common sense to the situation.

ROFL You are aware you're posting on overreactionplanet right?

Rain Man 01-03-2014 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10332100)
Hitchhiking (or tagging along) with someone else. It happens a lot.


You're a Coloradan or former Coloradan, right? Drugs or no drugs, we get a fair number of those people. Colorado has always been seen as a good place to escape for people.

ToxSocks 01-03-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10332100)
Hitchhiking (or tagging along) with someone else. It happens a lot.

I'd venture to say that hitchhiking potheads traveling the country is going to be an extremely small minority, especially with this generation.

My point is, there won't be any "droves" like others are saying.

I just don't believe there will enough of "that type" to make any substantial impact on CO.

jspchief 01-03-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10332124)
I'd venture to say that hitchhiking potheads traveling the country is going to be an extremely small minority, especially with this generation.

My point is, there won't be any "droves" like others are saying.

I just don't believe there will enough of "that type" to make any substantial impact on CO.

Colorado already attracts an inordinate number of those types.

listopencil 01-03-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10332113)
You're a Coloradan or former Coloradan, right? Drugs or no drugs, we get a fair number of those people. Colorado has always been seen as a good place to escape for people.

Yup. I lived in Boulder and Longmont back in the 80's. Went to High School in both places. As I recall there has been a massive migration to Colorado over the last several decades. There were "Native" license plates back then and a huge backlash against the migrants.

listopencil 01-03-2014 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10332124)
I'd venture to say that hitchhiking potheads traveling the country is going to be an extremely small minority, especially with this generation.

My point is, there won't be any "droves" like others are saying.

I just don't believe there will enough of "that type" to make any substantial impact on CO.

They do it out here in California all of the time. It's not unusual for the responsible smokers to ferry their loser friends around, up and down the state and across into others.

ToxSocks 01-03-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10332107)
So detoxing, it sounds like you assume that the risk of arrest is zero? I was assuming that that would be the draw to the archetypal stoner, not just convenience.

I would swear that one of the big arguments for legalization was that assertion that millions of innocent marijuana users are languishing in jails.

The risk of arrest isn't large enough to make the majority of users skip states. Unless of course you are a grower/seller. Simple users usually don't wind up in jail.

Pot is simply too easy to NOT be caught with.

Katipan 01-03-2014 03:32 PM

You can't be a lifetime pot aficionado without a measure of discretion. If I get caught with it, I'm probably doing something else wrong. So it being illegal is silly to me, but not anything that determines whether or not I'll do it.

I think pot heads all over are rah rah rahing not because they plan a mass exodus but because CO offers a glimpse at what could be.


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