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htismaqe 02-19-2013 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9417834)
And if we are or do decide on drafting a QB at 1, he's going to need all the weapons and help he can get. So I won't get really upset if we offense heavy this draft early.


But we have to get an ILB and a Cb somewhere.
This is a good year to get a CB in free agency.

O.city 02-19-2013 10:51 PM
Like RunKC has brought up, these guys have always loaded up the WR position. If we were to bring in Harvin, I don't think that would auto make us not take one in the 4th round if someone dropped.

mcaj22 02-19-2013 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9417836)
You're right, Pinkston was a sub 4.4 guy. I just didn't think of it because he didn't have the same kind of "speed" that Desean Jackson or Percy Harvin is.

Todd Pinkston was essentially you're straight line track guy. I always thought he looked stiff on the field. Jackson and especially Harvin are "shifty". Maybe quickness is a better term than speed?
the fact is Andy Reid has always had speed at WR in some form, yes he can do with Bowe what he did with TO, but there was always fast WRs in Philly, some more dynamic than others, but they were all evaluated based on their 40 times and their ability to get behind safeties so they could air the ball out 40 times in a season like you said.

Todd Pinkston was the straight line monster, and is essentially exactly what Im saying this team needs, if not a dynamic speed play maker like Harvin that can run combo routes with versatility, or a guy like Todd Pinkston that is pure straight speed behind the safety.

O.city 02-19-2013 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9417837)
This is a good year to get a CB in free agency.
Yep.


There are quite a few guys in free agency that are really intriguing this year.

mcaj22 02-19-2013 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9417845)
Yep.


There are quite a few guys in free agency that are really intriguing this year.
who,

DRC lollllll

they wont pay for Grimes

htismaqe 02-19-2013 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9417843)
the fact is Andy Reid has always had speed at WR in some form, yes he can do with Bowe what he did with TO, but there was always fast WRs in Philly, some more dynamic than others, but they were all evaluated based on their 40 times and their ability to get behind safeties so they could air the ball out 40 times in a season like you said.

Todd Pinkston was the straight line monster, and is essentially exactly what Im saying this team needs, if not a dynamic speed play maker like Harvin that can run combo routes with versatility, or a guy like Todd Pinkston that is pure straight speed behind the safety.
I absolutely agree with you there. That was the point I was trying to make - we don't absolutely have to have a straight-line track guy if we can find a guy that can use his routes and quickness to get behind a defense.

But you absolutely have to have guys, more than one even, that can stretch the field. Reid's WCO stretches the field moreso than any other variant.

O.city 02-19-2013 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9417846)
who,

DRC lollllll

they wont pay for Grimes
Ew, no.


I don't think Grimes will cost as much as he would coming off a healthy year, but potentially a guy like Sam Shields, Mckelvin, Talib would be great.


I don't think this regime is gonna pinch pennies and sign guys off the shit pile to one year deals.

mcaj22 02-19-2013 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9417850)
Ew, no.


I don't think Grimes will cost as much as he would coming off a healthy year, but potentially a guy like Sam Shields, Mckelvin, Talib would be great.


I don't think this regime is gonna pinch pennies and sign guys off the shit pile to one year deals.
I dont think Sam Shields is going anywhere now that they cut Woodson

McKelvin and Talib will be options but will want to be way overpaid

I do like Grimes out of all of them but I think he will cost the most, he is by far the best imo

O.city 02-19-2013 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9417847)
I absolutely agree with you there. That was the point I was trying to make - we don't absolutely have to have a straight-line track guy if we can find a guy that can use his routes and quickness to get behind a defense.

But you absolutely have to have guys, more than one even, that can stretch the field. Reid's WCO stretches the field moreso than any other variant.
Which is why Harvin would be a perfect fit. :drool:

O.city 02-19-2013 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9417853)
I dont think Sam Shields is going anywhere now that they cut Woodson

McKelvin and Talib will be options but will want to be way overpaid
Even a Cary Williams would be better than the shit we had there last year.

mcaj22 02-19-2013 10:59 PM
id actually take Cary Williams over all those other guys sadly lol

O.city 02-19-2013 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9417853)
I dont think Sam Shields is going anywhere now that they cut Woodson

McKelvin and Talib will be options but will want to be way overpaid

I do like Grimes out of all of them but I think he will cost the most, he is by far the best imo
Yeah, Grimes would be a really good pair with Flowers. I'm not sure the market for him, coming off an achilles injury.


However, if we do something like Harvin etc in free agency, I'd say CB will be the pick in round 2.


Which is what I'd rather do honestly, and pay a playmaker like Harvin than a CB.

htismaqe 02-19-2013 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9417854)
Which is why Harvin would be a perfect fit. :drool:
He has BOTH. :D

htismaqe 02-19-2013 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9417859)
id actually take Cary Williams over all those other guys sadly lol
Hell yes.

O.city 02-19-2013 11:01 PM
htis, I didn't know you were that big of a Harvin fan.


Dude would absolutely explode in a Reid offense IMO.


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