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Mav 03-14-2013 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498207)
Smart teams have young, ascending players on their roster backing up older players.

Having a Dion Jordan (despite his brilliance outside of football) would be nice not only as a rotational player, but as insurance if either Hali or Houston were injured.

If either were to be injured, it would seriously affect QB pressure and pass rush.
Given that scenario, id rather have Ansah. More upside i believe than any other pass rusher in this draft. Also profiles greatly to a 3-4 olb.

penbrook 03-14-2013 02:10 PM
Tamba didnt have a lot of sacks lsst year because he was in coverage 70% of the time. He is a pass rusher not a pass coverer. He could easily put up 15 sacks this year if used properly.

Mav 03-14-2013 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498209)
What about 2012?

The one where he averaged 2.4 sacks a game......only down .35 sacks per game from the year before?
no, 2012, he flat held the ball too long, which ultimately led to his demise. Holding the ball and not getting rid of it, was for sure a big issue. Just dont want this scape goat out there about the oline in 2011.

2012.....best o line in football bar none......

mcaj22 03-14-2013 02:10 PM
apparently some of you dont realize that Tamba Hali is probably one of TWO defenders on the entire team that the other teams offense actually game plan for as a factor during the week. He's that good. He's getting old, but he's good, let's say he's similar to dwight freeney/robert mathis, he's still got well til hes 33/34

Mav 03-14-2013 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9498218)
apparently some of you dont realize that Tamba Hali is probably one of TWO defenders on the entire team that the other teams offense actually game plan for as a factor during the week. He's that good. He's getting old, but he's good, let's say he's similar to dwight freeney/robert mathis, he's still got well til hes 33/34
hes going to have a huge year.

ToxSocks 03-14-2013 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9498193)
So you'd go Jordan?

Long-term, he may be the better pick. However, if you think that you can get real push from your D-line with one of those first three, that's more impactful than a ROLB would be, especially when we already have Houston who's logical next step is to supplant Hali.
Yes i would, especially in a trade down scenario. Or even Jarvis Jones depending on how far we trade back.

I think bringing in a 3rd pass rusher on obvious passing downs would be tremendous.

penbrook 03-14-2013 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9498218)
apparently some of you dont realize that Tamba Hali is probably one of TWO defenders on the entire team that the other teams offense actually game plan for as a factor during the week. He's that good. He's getting old, but he's good, let's say he's similar to dwight freeney/robert mathis, he's still got well til hes 33/34
Thank God a person who ****ing gets it.

The Franchise 03-14-2013 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9498216)
no, 2012, he flat held the ball too long, which ultimately led to his demise. Holding the ball and not getting rid of it, was for sure a big issue. Just dont want this scape goat out there about the oline in 2011.

2012.....best o line in football bar none......
Know why he doesn't turn the ball over? Because he takes ****ing sacks.

Game Manager. 8-8.

mcaj22 03-14-2013 02:13 PM
you dont really game plan for a MLBer, you dont really game plan for a safety. So that leaves Flowers and Hali, Houston gets open looks because of all the focus Hali brings

we dont have a d-lineman worth a shit that takes the focus off of any of them, so that's where we struggle

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498227)
Know why he doesn't turn the ball over? Because he takes ****ing sacks.

Game Manager. 8-8.
8-8 is still better than 2-14, 4-12, 7-9, 4-12 and 2-14.

ToxSocks 03-14-2013 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9498195)
why do people think Tamba Hali is on the decline?

did you see the d-line he was playing alongside of last year? how about the MLBers and safeties behind him?

or the RCB to his outside? No? okay. Guess you were all sleeping
I'm not sure he's in decline or not, but his production certainly dropped off last season and im not as certain as you are that it's his supporting cast's fault. He's getting older, he was never an outstanding athlete to begin with, so it's not far fetched to believe that his best days are behind him.

If the Chiefs are in a position for a luxury pick, and it's not going to be a QB, then OLB seems to be the sexiest pick out there.

The Franchise 03-14-2013 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498233)
8-8 is still better than 2-14, 4-12, 7-9, 4-12 and 2-14.
Does 8-8 win you a Superbowl? No, it doesn't.

ptlyon 03-14-2013 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498233)
8-8 is still better than 2-14, 4-12, 7-9, 4-12 and 2-14.
For what?

ToxSocks 03-14-2013 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9498215)
Tamba didnt have a lot of sacks lsst year because he was in coverage 70% of the time. He is a pass rusher not a pass coverer. He could easily put up 15 sacks this year if used properly.
Yeah, i'm pretty sure you made that "70%" up.

The Franchise 03-14-2013 02:17 PM
You want realistic expectations for Alex Smith?

His 2nd year here.....he better have us in the AFC Championship game.


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