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Packfan12 07-16-2015 09:27 AM

We play Denver coming off a bye but at Mile High. That will be tough.

DaneMcCloud 07-16-2015 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 11601819)
Smith is making quite a bit this year ( 7+ million if I remember correctly). I would expect any new contract for him to REDUCE the cap hit this year.

Makes more sense to give a player like Howard or DeVito an extension/raise. But honestly, most of the players that are entering UFA are playing this year on a 'prove-it' type of situation.

Sign Stephenson to an extension? Why would we and why would he?

DeVito? No. He's old and just cut his number in half.

Howard? Possibly, depending on whether or not he continues to ascend.

O.city 07-16-2015 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11601837)
Dumping Smith for those players is not a wise move and I think Smith is overrated. But maybe if Peters blooms...

Why us smith overrated?

DJ's left nut 07-16-2015 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11601787)
Not sure why, either.

They obviously structured the deal in such a way that it would open up cap space this year for somebody.

Yeah, but I keep forgetting about that rollover feature.

There's really no 'downside' to backloading, provided you're smart about it. If you do it just to free up a bunch of money that you'll burn on overpriced fading vets (i.e. Evan Mathis), then it's stupid.

If you do it just to create some flexibility and be opportunistic should the right player come available or approach the team about an extension, then worst case scenario is that it doesn't get spent and it still rolls over into next season. At that point, Houston will have essentially 'forward paid' the first $8 million of next year's cap hit by taking less this year.

It's the same thing Smith did with his deal last year. Everyone bitches about Smith's cap figure over the next 3 years but they forget that he took a pretty massive cut last year that rolled over into this season and as such has actually pre-paid some of those dollars.

The Bad Guy 07-16-2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11601891)
Intel? Because Reid has denied interest in Mathis. Things can change certainly in an instant for sure though.

Don't have any inside info on it. Just a hunch.

Reid denied interest when the Chiefs barely had 500k in cap space. Far different ball game now.

The Bad Guy 07-16-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11601915)
DeVito? No. He's old and just cut his number in half.

Howard? Possibly, depending on whether or not he continues to ascend.

It Catapano can play at a solid level, DeVito shouldn't be here next year.

DJ's left nut 07-16-2015 09:58 AM

Wow. Take a look at this article regarding a 'fair' deal for a Houston extension:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ton-and-chiefs

That's damn near identical to what the Chiefs actually did. KC tacked an extra year on the end that both helps Houston's agents say they got Watt money while also spreading the signing bonus number out a bit more, but otherwise it's virtually a carbon copy of what the Chiefs ended up signing Houston to.

It really is all a show. This sure looks like the end game was pretty apparent from the start.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2015 10:00 AM

Now all the Clarks need to do is plant some weed in his car and the substance abuse clause can kick in!

The Franchise 07-16-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11601940)
Wow. Take a look at this article regarding a 'fair' deal for a Houston extension:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ton-and-chiefs

That's damn near identical to what the Chiefs actually did. KC tacked an extra year on the end that both helps Houston's agents say they got Watt money while also spreading the signing bonus number out a bit more, but otherwise it's virtually a carbon copy of what the Chiefs ended up signing Houston to.

It really is all a show. This sure looks like the end game was pretty apparent from the start.

Joel Corry is smart when it comes to contracts. He's a good follow on twitter for contract breakdowns as well.

ToxSocks 07-16-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 11601933)
It Catapano can play at a solid level, DeVito shouldn't be here next year.

Catapano? LMAO

DeVito's replacement is already on the the team and it sure as **** isn't the Great White Hype.

penbrook 07-16-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11601945)
Catapano? LMAO

DeVito's replacement is already on the the team and it sure as **** isn't the Great White Hype.

Yea Howard is replacing Devito

ToxSocks 07-16-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11601946)
Yea Howard is replacing Devito

yup

RealSNR 07-16-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11601849)
The latest argument I heard here about Hunt cheapness being the source of all our ills is that Clark is keeping the team from drafting a first round QB because he doesn't want to pay what it would cost for a contract extension if said QB was deserving of one.

Wasn't that Black Bob, though?

DJ's left nut 07-16-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11601945)
Catapano? LMAO

DeVito's replacement is already on the the team and it sure as **** isn't the Great White Hype.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11601947)
yup

Seconded.

I had a Howard post typed but when I was looking for any news on his possible extension I found that Corry article instead and thought it was much more interesting.

Catapano can't be counted on for anything at this point. However, if Howard goes out there and makes a leap like Bailey did last year, that's just the thing you keep some powder dry for. The in-season extension that keeps an ascending player off the market.

RunKC 07-16-2015 10:15 AM

Catapano will be nothing more than an obvious passing down DL. But hey if he can get 4 sacks this year it's a steal being he was a 7th round pick.


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