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BigMeatballDave 11-12-2015 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 11878519)
If you're going to go for it, you go all in. GMDM has demonstrated that he clearly understands this.

Either they're going to go balls to the wall while the nucleus is together (Gordon + Zobrist + really good SP), or make moves to position themselves for a smoother transition when these guys leave, meaning that 2017's trade deadline could be heartbreaking.
Yeah, but I think 3 Pennants and 2 WS wins would go a long way in soothing that hurt. :)

SAUTO 11-12-2015 06:14 PM
Rasmus first ever to accept the qualifying offer

cosmo20002 11-12-2015 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 11878519)
If you're going to go for it, you go all in. GMDM has demonstrated that he clearly understands this.

Either they're going to go balls to the wall while the nucleus is together (Gordon + Zobrist + really good SP), or make moves to position themselves for a smoother transition when these guys leave, meaning that 2017's trade deadline could be heartbreaking.
Nah, we'll be making another playoff run...the offseason will probably be rough though.

cosmo20002 11-12-2015 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11878705)
Rasmus back to the Astros


1 year/15.8 million
I assume that's the qualifying offer. He'd be the first ever to accept it.

SAUTO 11-12-2015 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11878773)
I assume that's the qualifying offer. He'd be the first ever to accept it.
Q

cosmo20002 11-12-2015 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 11878737)
2003 was decent.
And for a few years after, it was like a source of pride...Hey, we were over .500! It was like a WS win. Or at least a WS appearance.

BigCatDaddy 11-12-2015 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 11878635)
Rany? As in "Dayton Moore should be fired for trading Wil Meyers" Jazayerli?

That Rany?

Rany is an excellent writer and a knowledgeable Royals fan. But he's not really that good at evaluating talent. Remember how he used to idolize Kila Ka'aihue?
Yost and DM as in the same guys that hit Getzy leadoff? The same guys nearly ran out if town 2 years a go?

duncan_idaho 11-12-2015 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 11878667)
I guess I don't want them to completely strip the farm system and have this team lose 100 games in 2018 and beyond. Dayton Moore's philosophy is to build a strong farm system with a continuous pipeline of talent to the major leagues. I trust the process.



I want to have my cake and eat it too. I think they can sign Zobrist for sure, and hopefully Gordon. If they do that, they've got a pretty good team. No need to trade away ALL of the prospects.

It's not about farm system, it's about committing a lot of payroll for 2018 and beyond to guys in their mid-to-late 30s, when they're declining.

Signing FAs won't hurt the farm system. Just gives them less flexibility when Cain/Mouatakas/etc. become FAs.

Lex Luthor 11-12-2015 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11878817)
It's not about farm system, it's about committing a lot of payroll for 2018 and beyond to guys in their mid-to-late 30s, when they're declining.

Signing FAs won't hurt the farm system. Just gives them less flexibility when Cain/Mouatakas/etc. become FAs.
That's true. After I posted that I realized I sort of switched topics there.

suzzer99 11-12-2015 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11878817)
It's not about farm system, it's about committing a lot of payroll for 2018 and beyond to guys in their mid-to-late 30s, when they're declining.

Signing FAs won't hurt the farm system. Just gives them less flexibility when Cain/Mouatakas/etc. become FAs.
I love Moose, but of all the core players right now he would seem to be the most replaceable with something comparable. Since it's assumed we won't resign Hosmer - that really just leaves Cain. Let's say for the sake of argument he's out of reach too no matter what we do. Would you then be ok with selling out for 2016-2017?

I mean we just traded away a bunch of prospects to increase our odds of winning the WS maybe 10%. Why not sell out the future after 2017 to guarantee we'll be right in the mix the next two years?

MeatRock 11-12-2015 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11878731)
I would rather be good every year & maybe happen to luck into something, than to suck for 3 decades like the Royals did. It's great to win World Series, but 30 years of just bottom of the barrel garbage is too much to stomach again. Many of you don't know how it feels, but I was a die hard Royals fan since I was a little kid. I was born in 1984, and until last year, I had not known in my cognitive memory a Royals team that was any good.
Many of us don't know how it feels and you were born in 1984? ROFL
What the **** ever.

Lex Luthor 11-12-2015 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11878731)
I would rather be good every year & maybe happen to luck into something, than to suck for 3 decades like the Royals did. It's great to win World Series, but 30 years of just bottom of the barrel garbage is too much to stomach again. Many of you don't know how it feels, but I was a die hard Royals fan since I was a little kid. I was born in 1984, and until last year, I had not known in my cognitive memory a Royals team that was any good.
I'm right there with you, except I have been a fan since the very first game this team ever played. For 30 years this team was uninteresting and irrelevant. Remembering the glory days of the mid 1970s and the mid 1980s made the 30 years of SUCK even worse, because I knew what it felt like to be proud to be a Royals fan. I don't EVER want to see that again.

siberian khatru 11-12-2015 07:07 PM
@Braves: Braves acquire IF Erick Aybar, LHP Sean Newcomb & RHP Chris Ellis & cash from Angels for SS Andrelton Simmons and C Jose Briceno

Saul Good 11-12-2015 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 11878826)
I love Moose, but of all the core players right now he would seem to be the most replaceable with something comparable. Since it's assumed we won't resign Hosmer - that really just leaves Cain. Let's say for the sake of argument he's out of reach too no matter what we do. Would you then be ok with selling out for 2016-2017?

I mean we just traded away a bunch of prospects to increase our odds of winning the WS maybe 10%. Why not sell out the future after 2017 to guarantee we'll be right in the mix the next two years?
Why is Hosmer so sure to be gone? The guy is pretty average to this point in his career.

suzzer99 11-12-2015 07:25 PM
Just going by what I hear and read.


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