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kccrow 04-24-2020 09:13 AM

Putting up numbers like Westbrook did out of the backfield as a receiver is what would make this pick worth a 1st rounder. I think that's the overall appeal to Veach in Reid is how good he was in college in that regard. Improving the run game has nowhere near the correlation with winning as does improving passing efficiency and effectiveness, and CEH may just provide that. I'm hoping for it.

The Franchise 04-24-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14929789)
Putting up numbers like Westbrook did out of the backfield as a receiver is what would make this pick worth a 1st rounder. I think that's the overall appeal to Veach in Reid is how good he was in college in that regard. Improving the run game has nowhere near the correlation with winning as does improving passing efficiency and effectiveness, and CEH may just provide that. I'm hoping for it.

I think he’s going to improve the passing game out of the backfield and also improve the short yardage game as well. He’s not a bulldozer but he has the vision and the burst to pick the hole and accelerate through it.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-24-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14929787)
This kid is going to be on fire on Reid’s screen passes. Holy shit.

Screen passes, wheel routes, even short stop routes are lethal with his change of direction and quickness. Teams will consider putting one of their better cover safeties on him only to remember they still got Kelce and Reek to deal with. There is no good answer.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 09:22 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brett Veach also said that when the draft got within 5-6 selections from the Chiefs, Eric Bieniemy started texting him saying, “Go get him, bro!&quot;</p>&mdash; Arrowhead Addict (@ArrowheadAddict) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadAddict/status/1253690580258914309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiefsCountry 04-24-2020 09:23 AM

I'm perfectly fine with a running back after Murray and Ruiz were gone.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 14929808)
Screen passes, wheel routes, even short stop routes are lethal with his change of direction and quickness. Teams will consider putting one of their better cover safeties on him only to remember they still got Kelce and Reek to deal with. There is no good answer.

Then you still got to deal with Mecole and Sammy

ThyKingdomCome15 04-24-2020 09:23 AM

Per Schrager, CEH was going early to mid second. This is not a reach at all. More than one GM was throwing clipboards at this pick. Simms said this was the best RB in the draft.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-24-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14929817)
Then you still got to deal with Mecole and Sammy

Amen brother

tredadda 04-24-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14929342)
I like the pick of an RB but its reeruned for value. You could have traded down to middle to late 2nd round and still got this guy.

It is my belief hes the best RB for our system outside of Swift but that doesn't mean you disregard value. Nobody else wanted this guy until at least pick 47.

Except you forget about the value of the fifth year option. If this kid is as good as most believe he will be then we will all be glad for that fifth year option.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 14929825)
Except you forget about the value of the fifth year option. If this kid is as good as most believe he will be then we will all be glad for that fifth year option.

Yep Veach said yesterday he’s excited to have CEH for the next five years

ThyKingdomCome15 04-24-2020 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14929775)
And he’s going to the perfect situation. We have the deep and intermediate threats to create space for him.

Amen brother

ToxSocks 04-24-2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 14929447)
What I’m hesitant about is if CEH is the best back in the draft with all of them available. Time will tell.

Well don't be. Watch all of those backs play every down. Not just highlights. But every down you can find. And then watch CEH. He's undeniably the best back. Here, Veach will explain why:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/YAS-xC0iguM?start=85" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ThyKingdomCome15 04-24-2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 14929825)
Except you forget about the value of the fifth year option. If this kid is as good as most believe he will be then we will all be glad for that fifth year option.

Truth :thumb:

RunKC 04-24-2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14929787)
This kid is going to be on fire on Reid’s screen passes. Holy shit.

Used more as a receiver than even McCaffrey. This guy is going to be everywhere and will produce similar production. He’s going to be just like McCaffrey as a receiving back.

We’ll think of this dude as a small receiver rather than RB.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Over the last five years, I have only charted 6 running backs that have been split out wide as receivers on at least 20% of their routes:<br><br>* Marlon Mack (38%) <br>* Clyde Edwards-Helaire (35%)<br>* Christian McCaffrey (31%)<br>* Josh Jacobs (26%)<br>* C.J. Prosise (22%)<br>* Alvin Kamara (21%)</p>&mdash; Graham Barfield (@GrahamBarfield) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrahamBarfield/status/1253082290554454017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 09:29 AM

I’m not in this camp but there are people suggesting we trade Damien Williams. I think this would be dumb. Williams provides a lethal 1-2 combo with CEH


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