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DJ's left nut 06-10-2022 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16327964)
if you ask me the way Carrie said "Ben KENOBI!?" in ANH definitely reads as having met him 10 years earlier

a mystical hero who once saved you and then vanished into thin air

Inclined to agree with you.

And she did say 'reaching out on behalf of my father' or what not in her holograph to Ben - it may just be the case where she's maintaining a sort of diplomatic formality given that she's technically speaking as nobility and on behalf of the Senate (I think that's right - again, not good with the Canon here).

Sassy Squatch 06-10-2022 10:49 AM

Vague enough to not be a big deal either way.

Hammock Parties 06-10-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16327965)
Inclined to agree with you.

And she did say 'reaching out on behalf of my father' or what not in her holograph to Ben - it may just be the case where she's maintaining a sort of diplomatic formality given that she's technically speaking as nobility and on behalf of the Senate (I think that's right - again, not good with the Canon here).

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General Kenobi. Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire. I regret that I am unable to present my father’s request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack, and I’m afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed. I have placed information vital to the survival of the Rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it. You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan. This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You’re my only hope.
That reads as a very personal connection.

DJ's left nut 06-10-2022 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16327971)
That reads as a very personal connection.

But again - it definitely doesn't start that way. The rest of that message is very stiff. Why read the guy his own CV to start things off if you have some warm history together?

Graystoke 06-10-2022 11:03 AM

Ok, I can buy into some of this.
What about my second question?

And to build on that if Obi-Wan is going to put himself in grave danger rescuing Leia not once, but twice, isn't that going to send off signals to Darth Vader the importance of Leia?

Hammock Parties 06-10-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16327983)
But again - it definitely doesn't start that way. The rest of that message is very stiff. Why read the guy his own CV to start things off if you have some warm history together?

Why not? It was a distress call and she didn't have a lot of time to be emotional.

Hammock Parties 06-10-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 16327986)
Ok, I can buy into some of this.
What about my second question?

And to build on that if Obi-Wan is going to put himself in grave danger rescuing Leia not once, but twice, isn't that going to send off signals to Darth Vader the importance of Leia?

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notorious 06-10-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16327965)
Inclined to agree with you.

And she did say 'reaching out on behalf of my father' or what not in her holograph to Ben - it may just be the case where she's maintaining a sort of diplomatic formality given that she's technically speaking as nobility and on behalf of the Senate (I think that's right - again, not good with the Canon here).

They were being boarded by a pissed-off Vader after a heated battle.

She has ice water running through her veins.

listopencil 06-10-2022 12:01 PM

I don't have a problem with the Reva character (the actress) because the acting in this show is kind of shitty overall and she doesn't stand out as especially bad to me. Ewan McGregor is really good at pretending to be Alec Guinness. Indira Varma (Tala Dunth) is good. Joel Edgerton (Owan Lars) did a good job. Everybody else is just stumbling through poorly written dialogue or hamming it up. Still annoyed by lollipop headed baby Leia running around like she's wearing a diaper though. The girl doesn't act well, her dialogue is crap, and she was badly miscast.

Hammock Parties 06-10-2022 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 16328043)
Still annoyed by lollipop headed baby Leia running around like she's wearing a diaper though. The girl doesn't act well, her dialogue is crap, and she was badly miscast.

Wow. Interesting how people can disagree.

I think she's an absolutely perfect lil Leia. Puts every other child actor in the series to shame.

Sassy Squatch 06-10-2022 12:58 PM

Yeah, don't get the hate. Those scenes where she was getting chased were ****ing awful, but that's on the director, not the actor.

Raiderhater 06-10-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 16327986)
Ok, I can buy into some of this.
What about my second question?

And to build on that if Obi-Wan is going to put himself in grave danger rescuing Leia not once, but twice, isn't that going to send off signals to Darth Vader the importance of Leia?

I take it Vader knows from the third sister that it was Organa’s daughter that was kidnapped. One would expect a continued effort to rescue a senator’s daughter. And Vader also knows how the Jedi can’t seem to help themselves in matters such as these and will keep going until the mission is complete.

staylor26 06-10-2022 03:39 PM

Finally watched episode 4. Young Leia has grown on me a bit, but still can’t stand Reva’s character.

That “interrogation” was cringe.

Obi-Wan was great this episode.

Vader stole the show in the last min or so per usual.

listopencil 06-11-2022 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16328120)
Wow. Interesting how people can disagree.

I think she's an absolutely perfect lil Leia. Puts every other child actor in the series to shame.

She'd be great playing a 5 or 6 year old Leia.

listopencil 06-11-2022 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16328131)
Yeah, don't get the hate. Those scenes where she was getting chased were ****ing awful, but that's on the director, not the actor.

The only thing I fault her for is not being a very good actress. Everything else is on the people who created this show.


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