I am going to be out of the net until tomorrow morning (I don't expect my 15th to come up anytime soon anyway) but have given my pick to Mile High Mania and Rain Man. Mr MHM, please go with the original if the one I gave to both of you is taken.

Thank You

Damn, how can this take so long?

Seriously, Rain Man, can we take a vote that if you are behind one pick, then we move on even if another pick comes up? That way whenever the owner comes back, he can just make his picks instead of us all waiting around.

We tried that already and people didn't want to. He's got 4-5 more hours though.

Why don't we just drop it from 12 hours to 6... that would at least cut the wait time in half (although it'd still be slow, it would at the very least be an improvement)

Heh ... we did that in R9 I believe, it was a 24 hour clock if you can believe that...

Here's the deal, the clock expires in an hour and I have the pick for truebigdog... so, in an hour, the Kansas City Kings will be on the clock.

we should do it again...

Lead the charge, I'm online all the time, others don't have that luxury. I'm guessing since some may work 8+ hours and not have the benefit of logging on during the day, they won't go for it.

One challenge with lowering it further is that it'll put people at a disadvantage if they only log on at night. I think we need to keep it at 12 hours.

Has anyone timed how long it takes to complete a round? I guess we should be thinking about the timing relative to the rookie draft and the end of training camp.

Yo - Stallions has about 20 minutes left on the clock, nearly rounding out his full 24 hours. Let's just make the pick for truebigdog and move on.

Cool?

I dunno man. I work full time, work out for 2 hours a day, live in a fraternity house and have a g/f and I still have time to make picks, and even offer people tons of trades (that they always decline :( )

I feel like if they were invested more in the game they would be more apt to make their picks on time, but I could be wrong I guess...

It's a marathon, not a sprint... all I can say. Buckle up for the long haul.

Ok, the timer expired on Stallions... he's been up for nearly 24 hours, 17 minutes shy of the full 24 hours. I'm taking a gamble that he's not showing up in the next 17 minutes...

The Scorpions select... Ryan Kalil, C.

Kansas City Kings (Kyle) is on the clock, pm on the way.

Round 12
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Erik Coleman, FS
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Freddy Keiaho, OLB
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Chris Hope, S
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Santana Moss, WR
15. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Dunta Robinson, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Leonard Davis, OG
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Gamble, CB
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Curtis Lofton, MLB
11. Greenville Marauders - Jason Brown, C
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Marshawn Lynch, RB
9. Memphis Malt Liquor - Richard Marshall, CB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Adalius Thomas, OLB
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jeff Otah, RT
6. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Duane Brown, LT
5. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Jeff Faine, C
4. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Aqib Talib, FS
3. Honolulu Hulas - Broderick Bunkley, DT
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Lawrence Timmons, ILB
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Joe Staley, LT

Round 13
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Owen Daniels, TE
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Vernon Davis, TE
3. Honolulu Hulas - Stacey Andrews, RT
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brandon Flowers, CB
5. KC Kings - Ellis Hobbs, CB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Paul Pozluzny, ILB
7. Memphis Malt Liquors - Gibril Wilson, S
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Parys Haralson, OLB
9. Cleveland Steamers - Andre Gurode, C
10. Memphis Malt Liquor - Charles Tillman, CB
11. Greenville Marauders - Will Allen, CB
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Leon Hall, CB
13. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Shawn Andrews, OG/OT (via trade with jwazzie)
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Antoine Bethea, FS
15. St. Louis Commodes - Yeremiah Bell, SS
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Laveranues Coles, WR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Davin Joseph, G
18. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Brandon Mebane, DT
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Antonio Pierce, MLB

Round 14
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Larry Johnson, RB
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Will Smith, DE
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Ben Grubbs, OG
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Chris Cooley, TE
15. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Luis Castillo, DE/DT
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Tony Ugoh, LT
13. Boise Beetdiggers - Ken Hamlin, FS
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Cliff Avril, DE
11. Greenville Marauders - Greg Ellis, DE
10. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Adam Carriker, DT
11. Fort Wayne Dancers - Felix Jones, RB
8. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
7. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Kalil, C
5. Kansas City Kings
4. St. Louis Commodes
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
1. Fort Wayne Dancers

Round 15
1. Fort Wayne Dancers
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3. Honolulu Hulas
4. St. Louis Commodes
5. KC Kings
6. San Antonio Scorpions
7. St. Louis Stallions
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters
11. Greenville Marauders
12. St. Louis Stallions
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
14. Bradenton Super-Manatees
15. St. Louis Commodes
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

Round 16
19. Atlantic City Hitmen
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
17. Knoxville Kiffins
16. Boise Beetdiggers
15. St. Louis Commodes
14. Boise Beetdiggers
13. Boise Beetdiggers
12. Memphis Malt Liquor
11. Greenville Marauders
10. Tuscon Tittie Twisters
9. Fort Wayne Dancers
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
7. St. Louis Stallions
6. Memphis Malt Liquor (via trade with Scorpions)
5. Kansas City Kings
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
1. Fort Wayne Dancers

Round 17
1. Fort Wayne Dancers
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3. Honolulu Hulas
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
5. KC Kings
6. San Antonio Scorpions
7. St. Louis Stallions
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters
11. Greenville Marauders
12. St. Louis Scorpions
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
14. Boise Beetdiggers
15. St. Louis Commodes
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

Round 18
19. Atlantic City Hitmen
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
17. Knoxville Kiffins
16. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
15. St. Louis Commodes
14. Boise Beetdiggers
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
12. Memphis Malt Liquor
11. Greenville Marauders
10. San Antonio Scorpions (via trade with MML, Tucon's original pick)
9. Fort Wayne Dancers
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
7. St. Louis Stallions
6. San Antonio Scorpions
5. Kansas City Kings
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Greenville Marauders
1. Memphis Malt Liquor

Oh and you don't pick for another full round, I wouldn't even worry about this until Thursday... there's no way you or I are picking tomorrow, I'm also not in R15.

I'm wheelin and dealin trying to make trades. I'm still trying to change things from my team I inherited to get it the way I want...

I applaud it... and yeah, this draft is slow, but it is what it is... try not to get too frustrated with it.

Ok - I don't pick again until R16... but, I still have 6 picks in the next 6 rounds. I'm always up for trades, I do have some players that I would move, but they won't be given away. So, if anyone is interested in dealing OUT of a Round or back in a round... you want to move a player or you covet one of mine (and how could you not) :D... make me an offer.

21 picks remaining in 19 rounds:
R15: 0
R16: 2 picks (mine & Scorpions)
R17: 0
R18: 2 picks (mine & FW Dancers)<o></o>
R19: 1 pick<o></o>
R20: 1 pick
R21-24: one pick each = 4 picks
R25: 3 picks (mine, Steamers & Tucson)
R26-33: one pick each = 8 picks

Memphis Malt Liquor(17 players)
Matt Schaub, QB (age 27)
Trent Edwards, QB (age 25)
Anquan Boldin, WR (age 28)
TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR (age 31)
Roy Williams, WR (age 27)
Greg Olsen, TE (age 23)
Brandon Jacobs, RB (age 26)
Kevin Smith, RB (age 22)
Marcus McNeil, LT (age 25)

Julius Peppers, DE/OLB (age 28)
Kevin Williams, DT (age 28)
Kris Jenkins, NT (age 29)
Kirk Morrison, ILB (age 26)
Cutis Lofton, MLB (age 22)
Richard Marshall, CB (age 24)
Charles Tillman, CB (age 27)
Gibril Wilson, S (age 27)

lol i'm not frusterated.. I was just offering a suggestion since doomy3 had asked rain man if there was anything that could be done.

what do you want for Kris Jenkins?

I like him... he's one of the few I would likely consider trading. I can't recall where I got him, somewhere between R8-11 I think. If you're interested, get creative and make me an offer. :clap:

I consider all trades, typically make counters if their off balance a bit... and hell, anything to keep Pestilence chasing me for the title of King of All Trades.

I like him... he's one of the few I would likely consider trading. I can't recall where I got him... I believe in R8. If you're interested, get creative and make me an offer. :clap:

I consider all trades, typically make counters if their off balance a bit... and hell, anything to keep Pestilence chasing me for the title of King of All Trades.

*edit* - I would make you an offer, but I can't fight through the posts to find your team...

Updated:

Round 12
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Erik Coleman, FS
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Freddy Keiaho, OLB
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Chris Hope, S
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Santana Moss, WR
15. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Dunta Robinson, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Leonard Davis, OG
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Gamble, CB
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Curtis Lofton, MLB
11. Greenville Marauders - Jason Brown, C
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Marshawn Lynch, RB
9. Memphis Malt Liquor - Richard Marshall, CB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Adalius Thomas, OLB
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jeff Otah, RT
6. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Duane Brown, LT
5. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Jeff Faine, C
4. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Aqib Talib, FS
3. Honolulu Hulas - Broderick Bunkley, DT
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Lawrence Timmons, ILB
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Joe Staley, LT

Round 13
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Owen Daniels, TE
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Vernon Davis, TE
3. Honolulu Hulas - Stacey Andrews, RT
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brandon Flowers, CB
5. KC Kings - Ellis Hobbs, CB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Paul Pozluzny, ILB
7. Memphis Malt Liquors - Gibril Wilson, S
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Parys Haralson, OLB
9. Cleveland Steamers - Andre Gurode, C
10. Memphis Malt Liquor - Charles Tillman, CB
11. Greenville Marauders - Will Allen, CB
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Leon Hall, CB
13. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Shawn Andrews, OG/OT (via trade with jwazzie)
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Antoine Bethea, FS - traded to KC Kings
15. St. Louis Commodes - Yeremiah Bell, SS
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Laveranues Coles, WR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Davin Joseph, G
18. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Brandon Mebane, DT
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Antonio Pierce, MLB

Round 14
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Larry Johnson, RB
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Will Smith, DE
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Ben Grubbs, OG
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Chris Cooley, TE
15. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Luis Castillo, DE/DT
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Tony Ugoh, LT
13. Boise Beetdiggers - Ken Hamlin, FS
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Cliff Avril, DE
11. Greenville Marauders - Greg Ellis, DE
10. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Adam Carriker, DT
11. Fort Wayne Dancers - Felix Jones, RB
8. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
7. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Kalil, C
5. Kansas City Kings
4. St. Louis Commodes
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
1. Fort Wayne Dancers

Round 15
1. Fort Wayne Dancers
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3. Honolulu Hulas
4. St. Louis Commodes
5. Boise Beetdiggers
6. San Antonio Scorpions
7. St. Louis Stallions
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters
11. Greenville Marauders
12. St. Louis Stallions
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
14. Bradenton Super-Manatees
15. St. Louis Commodes
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

Round 16
19. Atlantic City Hitmen
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
17. Knoxville Kiffins
16. Boise Beetdiggers
15. St. Louis Commodes
14. Boise Beetdiggers
13. Boise Beetdiggers
12. Memphis Malt Liquor
11. Greenville Marauders
10. Tuscon Tittie Twisters
9. Fort Wayne Dancers
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
7. St. Louis Stallions
6. Memphis Malt Liquor (via trade with Scorpions)
5. Kansas City Kings
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
1. Fort Wayne Dancers

Round 17
1. Fort Wayne Dancers
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3. Honolulu Hulas
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
5. KC Kings
6. San Antonio Scorpions
7. St. Louis Stallions
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters
11. Greenville Marauders
12. St. Louis Scorpions
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
14. Boise Beetdiggers
15. St. Louis Commodes
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

Round 18
19. Atlantic City Hitmen
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
17. Knoxville Kiffins
16. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
15. St. Louis Commodes
14. Boise Beetdiggers
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
12. Memphis Malt Liquor
11. Greenville Marauders
10. San Antonio Scorpions (via trade with MML, Tucon's original pick)
9. Fort Wayne Dancers
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
7. St. Louis Stallions
6. San Antonio Scorpions
5. Kansas City Kings
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Greenville Marauders
1. Memphis Malt Liquor

KC Kings appear to be on the clock, yes?

Thank you Rain Man. I'll have my pick here shortly

KC heard all the talk about Jenkins and took the remaining Jenkins brother Cullen. He only played in 4 games this past year, but he has improved every year and was on pace for career highs in most categories. I feel Cullen will help KC for years to come.

Round 12
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Erik Coleman, FS
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Freddy Keiaho, OLB
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Chris Hope, S
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Santana Moss, WR
15. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Dunta Robinson, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Leonard Davis, OG
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Gamble, CB
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Curtis Lofton, MLB
11. Greenville Marauders - Jason Brown, C
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Marshawn Lynch, RB
9. Memphis Malt Liquor - Richard Marshall, CB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Adalius Thomas, OLB
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jeff Otah, RT
6. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Duane Brown, LT
5. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Jeff Faine, C
4. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Aqib Talib, FS
3. Honolulu Hulas - Broderick Bunkley, DT
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Lawrence Timmons, ILB
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Joe Staley, LT

Round 13
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Owen Daniels, TE
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Vernon Davis, TE
3. Honolulu Hulas - Stacey Andrews, RT
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brandon Flowers, CB
5. KC Kings - Ellis Hobbs, CB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Paul Pozluzny, ILB
7. Memphis Malt Liquors - Gibril Wilson, S
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Parys Haralson, OLB
9. Cleveland Steamers - Andre Gurode, C
10. Memphis Malt Liquor - Charles Tillman, CB
11. Greenville Marauders - Will Allen, CB
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Leon Hall, CB
13. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Shawn Andrews, OG/OT (via trade with jwazzie)
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Antoine Bethea, FS - traded to KC Kings
15. St. Louis Commodes - Yeremiah Bell, SS
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Laveranues Coles, WR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Davin Joseph, G
18. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Brandon Mebane, DT
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Antonio Pierce, MLB

Round 14
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Larry Johnson, RB
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Will Smith, DE
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Ben Grubbs, OG
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Chris Cooley, TE
15. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Luis Castillo, DE/DT
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Tony Ugoh, LT
13. Boise Beetdiggers - Ken Hamlin, FS
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Cliff Avril, DE
11. Greenville Marauders - Greg Ellis, DE
10. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Adam Carriker, DT
11. Fort Wayne Dancers - Felix Jones, RB
8. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
7. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Kalil, C
5. Kansas City Kings - Cullen Jenkins, DE
4. St. Louis Commodes
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
1. Fort Wayne Dancers

Round 15
1. Fort Wayne Dancers
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3. Honolulu Hulas
4. St. Louis Commodes
5. Boise Beetdiggers
6. San Antonio Scorpions
7. St. Louis Stallions
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters
11. Greenville Marauders
12. St. Louis Stallions
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
14. Bradenton Super-Manatees
15. St. Louis Commodes
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

Round 16
19. Atlantic City Hitmen
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
17. Knoxville Kiffins
16. Boise Beetdiggers
15. St. Louis Commodes
14. Boise Beetdiggers
13. Boise Beetdiggers
12. Memphis Malt Liquor
11. Greenville Marauders
10. Tuscon Tittie Twisters
9. Fort Wayne Dancers
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
7. St. Louis Stallions
6. Memphis Malt Liquor (via trade with Scorpions)
5. Kansas City Kings
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
1. Fort Wayne Dancers

Round 17
1. Fort Wayne Dancers
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3. Honolulu Hulas
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
5. KC Kings
6. San Antonio Scorpions
7. St. Louis Stallions
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters
11. Greenville Marauders
12. St. Louis Scorpions
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
14. Boise Beetdiggers
15. St. Louis Commodes
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

Round 18
19. Atlantic City Hitmen
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
17. Knoxville Kiffins
16. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
15. St. Louis Commodes
14. Boise Beetdiggers
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
12. Memphis Malt Liquor
11. Greenville Marauders
10. San Antonio Scorpions (via trade with MML, Tucon's original pick)
9. Fort Wayne Dancers
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
7. St. Louis Stallions
6. San Antonio Scorpions
5. Kansas City Kings
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Greenville Marauders
1. Memphis Malt Liquor

PM sent

Offense:
Tom Brady, QB
Frank Gore, RB
Braylon Edwards, WR
Devin Hester, WR
Micheal Roos, LT
David Stewart, RT

Defense:
Cullen Jenkins, RE
Vince Wilfork, NT
Osi Umenyiora, ROLB
James Farrior, ILB
Barrett Ruud, ILB
Terence Newman, CB
Ellis Hobbs, CB
Antoine Bethea, S

St. Louis Commodes select Larry Foote, LB

Updated and we're ready for Hulas

Round 12
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Erik Coleman, FS
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Freddy Keiaho, OLB
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Chris Hope, S
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Santana Moss, WR
15. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Dunta Robinson, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Leonard Davis, OG
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Gamble, CB
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Curtis Lofton, MLB
11. Greenville Marauders - Jason Brown, C
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Marshawn Lynch, RB
9. Memphis Malt Liquor - Richard Marshall, CB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Adalius Thomas, OLB
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jeff Otah, RT
6. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Duane Brown, LT
5. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Jeff Faine, C
4. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Aqib Talib, FS
3. Honolulu Hulas - Broderick Bunkley, DT
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Lawrence Timmons, ILB
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Joe Staley, LT

Round 13
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Owen Daniels, TE
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Vernon Davis, TE
3. Honolulu Hulas - Stacey Andrews, RT
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brandon Flowers, CB
5. KC Kings - Ellis Hobbs, CB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Paul Pozluzny, ILB
7. Memphis Malt Liquors - Gibril Wilson, S
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Parys Haralson, OLB
9. Cleveland Steamers - Andre Gurode, C
10. Memphis Malt Liquor - Charles Tillman, CB
11. Greenville Marauders - Will Allen, CB
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Leon Hall, CB
13. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Shawn Andrews, OG/OT (via trade with jwazzie)
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Antoine Bethea, FS - traded to KC Kings
15. St. Louis Commodes - Yeremiah Bell, SS
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Laveranues Coles, WR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Davin Joseph, G
18. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Brandon Mebane, DT
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Antonio Pierce, MLB

Round 14
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Larry Johnson, RB
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Will Smith, DE
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Ben Grubbs, OG
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Chris Cooley, TE
15. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Luis Castillo, DE/DT
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Tony Ugoh, LT
13. Boise Beetdiggers - Ken Hamlin, FS
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Cliff Avril, DE
11. Greenville Marauders - Greg Ellis, DE
10. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Adam Carriker, DT
11. Fort Wayne Dancers - Felix Jones, RB
8. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
7. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Kalil, C
5. Kansas City Kings - Cullen Jenkins, DE
4. St. Louis Commodes - Larry Foote, LB
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
1. Fort Wayne Dancers

Round 15
1. Fort Wayne Dancers
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3. Honolulu Hulas
4. St. Louis Commodes
5. Boise Beetdiggers
6. San Antonio Scorpions
7. St. Louis Stallions
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters
11. Greenville Marauders
12. St. Louis Stallions
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
14. Bradenton Super-Manatees
15. St. Louis Commodes
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

Round 16
19. Atlantic City Hitmen
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
17. Knoxville Kiffins
16. Boise Beetdiggers
15. St. Louis Commodes
14. Boise Beetdiggers
13. Boise Beetdiggers
12. Memphis Malt Liquor
11. Greenville Marauders
10. Tuscon Tittie Twisters
9. Fort Wayne Dancers
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
7. St. Louis Stallions
6. Memphis Malt Liquor (via trade with Scorpions)
5. Kansas City Kings
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
1. Fort Wayne Dancers

Round 17
1. Fort Wayne Dancers
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3. Honolulu Hulas
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
5. KC Kings
6. San Antonio Scorpions
7. St. Louis Stallions
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters
11. Greenville Marauders
12. St. Louis Scorpions
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
14. Boise Beetdiggers
15. St. Louis Commodes
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

Round 18
19. Atlantic City Hitmen
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
17. Knoxville Kiffins
16. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
15. St. Louis Commodes
14. Boise Beetdiggers
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
12. Memphis Malt Liquor
11. Greenville Marauders
10. San Antonio Scorpions (via trade with MML, Tucon's original pick)
9. Fort Wayne Dancers
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas
7. St. Louis Stallions
6. San Antonio Scorpions
5. Kansas City Kings
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras
3. Honolulu Hulas
2. Greenville Marauders
1. Memphis Malt Liquor

Kalil was a very good pick. I actually thought about bypassing Faine and grabbing Kalil to be on my team for the next decade. But I figured that Faine would be around for another 5-6 years anyways....and I didn't want people giving me shit for trying to draft the entire Panthers line.

I just checked and Rockio42 hasn't been on since 3 am yesterday morning.....so I'm not sure WHAT the hell he's been doing.

How about Sully? The Stallions don't pick in R15, so I'm not concerned when he makes his picks from earlier in R14...

He was last on at around 8 am.

Did anyone send him a PM?

I did... wasn't sure if the previous guy did it.

Alright. He may have gotten it right after he got off then.

did anyone pm sully

Yeah....read three posts up.

Wanna trade out of your R15 pick?

Damn, that's harsh! I appreciate the endorsement though.

ROFL You asshole.

I still have that third overall remainder draft pick and a first round rookie pick to play with if anyone is interested in trading...

I'm going to have to keep an eye on the rookie draft because I actually might want to trade back into it. I'd obviously have to use my rookie picks for next year.

Yes. The answer is yes...

oh i thought that was about rockio for some reason

let me get back to you about a trade

Alright....just let me know. I might be interested in trading up to your R14 pick if you don't really have anyone you're looking at right now.

no i can't wait to make my r14 pick, just not sure about the next one and weighing some options

I wish Colin Brown was eligible, I need a RT.

Better give the Kings a ring when the time comes. I will be looking to trade down and am wanting a couple 2010 rookie picks with at least one of my rookie picks

I have a couple of first round picks and a second to trade in the rookie draft

As a cautionary note, anyone looking to trade (for or away) picks in the 2010 rookie draft should recognize that expansion is a realistic option, so we could have some new teams inserted into the mix.

On my to-do list is also developing a system for expansion, but that can wait a while.

I don't have any rookie picks to trade.

That's a joke right?

Per my theory that started this whole game idea, I'm willing to trade anyone my X rookie pick in 2009 for their X-1 rookie pick in 2010. In other words, I'll give you my 7th in 09 for your 6th in 10, my 2nd in 09 for your 1st in 10, whatever. It's an open offer to anyone at any time.

What about your 1st? Is that worth a 1st round rookie pick in 2011?

Per my formula, that becomes a zero-eth round pick, which means I get to pick a player from your current roster. Either that, or it means the universe blows up.


I would likely consider trading my 1st in any year for 1sts in the following two years, but I'd have to think about that.

I would like to trade a R3 pick in the 2017 draft for a R27 pick in 2009... anyone?

I realized that. I'd do like Rain Man and trade away one of my seconds for a 2010 1st.

No, I have supreme confidence in Pioli.





yes its a joke:D

Hey...there are some homers that would draft him because they believe in him.

Now trade me your R15 pick. I'll give you a good deal.

Round 12
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Erik Coleman, FS
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Freddy Keiaho, OLB
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Chris Hope, S
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Santana Moss, WR
15. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Dunta Robinson, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Leonard Davis, OG
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Gamble, CB
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Curtis Lofton, MLB
11. Greenville Marauders - Jason Brown, C
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Marshawn Lynch, RB
9. Memphis Malt Liquor - Richard Marshall, CB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Adalius Thomas, OLB
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jeff Otah, RT
6. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Duane Brown, LT
5. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Jeff Faine, C
4. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Aqib Talib, FS
3. Honolulu Hulas - Broderick Bunkley, DT
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Lawrence Timmons, ILB
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Joe Staley, LT

Round 13
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Owen Daniels, TE
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Vernon Davis, TE
3. Honolulu Hulas - Stacey Andrews, RT
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brandon Flowers, CB
5. KC Kings - Ellis Hobbs, CB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Paul Pozluzny, ILB
7. Memphis Malt Liquors - Gibril Wilson, S
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Parys Haralson, OLB
9. Cleveland Steamers - Andre Gurode, C
10. Memphis Malt Liquor - Charles Tillman, CB
11. Greenville Marauders - Will Allen, CB
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Leon Hall, CB
13. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Shawn Andrews, OG/OT (via trade with jwazzie)
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Antoine Bethea, FS - traded to KC Kings
15. St. Louis Commodes - Yeremiah Bell, SS
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Laveranues Coles, WR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Davin Joseph, G
18. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Brandon Mebane, DT
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Antonio Pierce, MLB

Round 14
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Larry Johnson, RB
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Will Smith, DE
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Ben Grubbs, OG
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Chris Cooley, TE
15. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Luis Castillo, DE/DT
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Tony Ugoh, LT
13. Boise Beetdiggers - Ken Hamlin, FS
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Cliff Avril, DE
11. Greenville Marauders - Greg Ellis, DE
10. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Adam Carriker, DT
11. Fort Wayne Dancers - Felix Jones, RB
8. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
7. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Kalil, C
5. Kansas City Kings - Cullen Jenkins, DE
4. St. Louis Commodes - Larry Foote, LB
3. Honolulu Hulas- Kamerion Wimbley, OLB
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers
1. Fort Wayne Dancers

pm your offer

Round 12
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Erik Coleman, FS
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Freddy Keiaho, OLB
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Chris Hope, S
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Santana Moss, WR
15. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Dunta Robinson, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Leonard Davis, OG
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Gamble, CB
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Curtis Lofton, MLB
11. Greenville Marauders - Jason Brown, C
10. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Marshawn Lynch, RB
9. Memphis Malt Liquor - Richard Marshall, CB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Adalius Thomas, OLB
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jeff Otah, RT
6. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Duane Brown, LT
5. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Jeff Faine, C
4. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Aqib Talib, FS
3. Honolulu Hulas - Broderick Bunkley, DT
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Lawrence Timmons, ILB
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Joe Staley, LT

Round 13
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Owen Daniels, TE
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Vernon Davis, TE
3. Honolulu Hulas - Stacey Andrews, RT
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brandon Flowers, CB
5. KC Kings - Ellis Hobbs, CB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Paul Pozluzny, ILB
7. Memphis Malt Liquors - Gibril Wilson, S
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Parys Haralson, OLB
9. Cleveland Steamers - Andre Gurode, C
10. Memphis Malt Liquor - Charles Tillman, CB
11. Greenville Marauders - Will Allen, CB
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Leon Hall, CB
13. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Shawn Andrews, OG/OT (via trade with jwazzie)
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Antoine Bethea, FS - traded to KC Kings
15. St. Louis Commodes - Yeremiah Bell, SS
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Laveranues Coles, WR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Davin Joseph, G
18. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Brandon Mebane, DT
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Antonio Pierce, MLB

Round 14
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Larry Johnson, RB
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks - Will Smith, DE
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Ben Grubbs, OG
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Chris Cooley, TE
15. Chattanooga Choo-Choos - Luis Castillo, DE/DT
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Tony Ugoh, LT
13. Boise Beetdiggers - Ken Hamlin, FS
12. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Cliff Avril, DE
11. Greenville Marauders - Greg Ellis, DE
10. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Adam Carriker, DT
11. Fort Wayne Dancers - Felix Jones, RB
8. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
7. St. Louis Stallions (timer expired, will pick when he returns)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Kalil, C
5. Kansas City Kings - Cullen Jenkins, DE
4. St. Louis Commodes - Larry Foote, LB
3. Honolulu Hulas- Kamerion Wimbley, OLB
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Thomas Davis, LB
1. Fort Wayne Dancers

pm sent

nice pick with Wimbley

I was hoping Wimbley would fall a little more. Damn good picks in a row there: Wimbley and Davis.

Davis was going to be a perfect fit for my remaining LB spot. And now he's cursed to spend his career without a championship.*



* - This presumes that Bradenton will win every championship, which at this point seems like a reasonable assumption.

DeMarcus Ware might have something to say about that....I mean who wants to be shipped off to Boise?

Do you know how far a $20 million signing bonus will go in Boise? He can have a butler and everything in Boise.

As opposed to, you know, Bradenton.

I imagine Davis would've been a perfect fit for a lot of teams' lb spots, great versatile player.

That's quite an assumption, but Jared Allen and Mario Williams do form a decent tandem I suppose.:)

And as far as Allen being at risk of a long suspension, I believe that expired when he went a year without incident.

Seriously? So I can be even more mad now that we traded him?

I thought the strikes never went away.

No luck finding a link, but I believe he's no longer in the NFL substance abuse program, which is when the potential year-long suspension would be applicable.

Wonder if Carl got that memo.

I was also wondering (wishing that Pioli had replaced Carl before the trade) just what Pioli would've done with him. I assume we'd still be looking at a 3-4 team, so Allen may have been traded anyway, if not it would've been pretty strange seeing him at lb.

Yo... get ready from some CREZZY NEWS!

Memphis Malt Liquor and Boise Beetdiggers have come to terms on the following trade:

Boise Beetdiggers receives the rights to Kris Jenkins and Memphis Malt Liquor's round 25 vet pick (P12)

Memphis Malt Liquor receives the rights to Boise Beetdiggers' round 16 vet pick (P14, Boise's 2nd of that round) and round 17 vet pick (P14)

Both organizations seemed very pleased with the deal. :clap:

Let me guess....you made another trade. :D

Hmm.....that was easy to figure out.

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Could be a silly move, but who knows...

22 picks remaining in 19 rounds:
R15: 0
R16: 3 picks (mine & Scorpions & Boise)
R17: 1 pick (<st1:city w:st="on"><st1>Boise</st1></st1:city>)
R18: 2 picks (mine & FW Dancers)
<o></o>R19: 1 pick
<o></o>R20: 1 pick
R21-24: one pick each = 4 picks
R25: 2 picks (Steamers & Tucson)
R26-33: one pick each = 8 picks

<st1:city w:st="on"><st1>Memphis</st1> </st1:city>Malt Liquor(16 players)
Matt Schaub, QB (age 27)
Trent Edwards, QB (age 25)
Anquan Boldin, WR (age 28)
TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR (age 31)
Roy Williams, WR (age 27)
Greg Olsen, TE (age 23)
Brandon Jacobs, RB (age 26)
Kevin Smith, RB (age 22)
Marcus McNeil, LT (age 25)

Julius Peppers, DE/OLB (age 28)
Kevin Williams, DT (age 28)
Kirk Morrison, ILB (age 26)
Cutis Lofton, MLB (age 22)
Richard Marshall, CB (age 24)
Charles Tillman, CB (age 27)
Gibril Wilson, S (age 27)<o></o>

The Boise Beetdiggers and Milwaukee Mud Ducks have agreed to terms on the following trade:

Boise Beetdiggers receive the rights to Bradie James, Mud Ducks vet 15 (#18), and Mud Ducks vet 17 (#18)

Milwauke Mud Ducks receive the rights to Beetdiggers 1st round rookie pick (#6 overall) and Beetdiggers vet 27 (#14)

:clap:

Jesus Christ rookie. You trying to catch up to Mile High and myself?

there's a new sheriff in town.. rochambeau

Just wanted you all to know I'm still alive I hope giving up these two picks don't come back to haunt me.

So
 

The rookie is talking a big game?

haha yeah. I just inherited a team that had players I didn't want. I wanted to do something totally different with my scheme and therefore needed to move players. That's why I've been so active trading..

Ok guys, I'm back, I tried to get a trade going to Pestilence before I had to leave but unfortunately I had to leave for Columbia (Mizzou) for my Summer Orientation and my picks came around at the absolutely worst time, so I am very very very sorry guys...