Who?

WHO?

Stop acting like a ****ing pussy.

WHO?

Geno Smith or EJ Manuel. They would have been nice options.

This isn't rocket surgery. You can waste time with Alex Smith or give yourself a chance to be good long after Alex Smith is done with his ****ing pointless career as an NFL QB.

PS - Your life must have really sucked ass if ignoring me improved it tenfold.

Good luck on your long journey to the middle.

I'm not playing your ****ing straw-man argument, you asshole. You've had several posters put out viable names several times, and you always skulk the **** back to your corner when they do.

**** off.

Go sit on the corner and pee on yourself.

Or Barkley, or even that chicken-neck Glennon.

So, you expected two long time NFL VETS to select third and fourth round players at 1.1?

Well finally, Clayrissa Explains It All.

Viable? Who?

You said it, Drug Store Cowboy.

WHO?

LMAO

Barkley? The fourth rounder?

LMAO

Manuel wasn't going in the 4th. Lock for the 2nd. Surprised a bit in the 1st, but elite tools cause a bump. And this is exactly what happened with Gabbert. We can claim he was overdrafted, but where did you realistically expect him to go?

It was always going to be the first; that was never in question.

You're actually proving my point--they are making moves that are self-destructive for the franchise in the pursuit of short-term interests.

Well riddle me this, shit for brains; you're going to sit here, straight-faced, and tell me there was no stop-gap the equal of the Great Alex Smith?

Really? No one better to hold down the fort? No one with his awesome game-managing mojo? Really?

Had we drafted bray in the third round, would this bullshit stop?

Bullshit.

The Bills reached because the GM was trying to save his ass.

PS - it didn't.

Had the Jets not made a colossal mistake at #39, Smith would have fallen to the fourth. Manuel was no better than a third rounder in any other year.

Intellectual Dishonesty at it's finest.

Perhaps in the 2nd.

Realistically, 3rd round QBs are never given much of a chance.

The year before in the quarterback mecca draft he was ranked 2a/2b with RGIII. Same player he was the year before expect he got hit a lot more.

I think Dane's man-crush for Fat Andy exceeds Fat Andy's man-crush for Axl The Awesome.

Yet he can't beat out foles who he was ranked ahead of the year before?

The mere fact that you're making proclamations, not backing them up, then asking more questions, just goes to prove that you're completely clueless.

Where are the nuts for you to swing upon now?

Enough of the revisionist bullshit with Gabbert. Enough. He was Scott Wright's #1 QB. Mayock's #1 QB. McShay's #1 QB. He was on the splash page of ESPN.com before the draft with a feature-length article entitled "A Beautiful Mind".

Everyone who says that he was going to slip into the second is absolutely straight up full of ****ing shit.

He's making sense. You took your shot with Bray and got Smith in the mean time.

One: That's no answer.

Two: At least I have a pair.

Dude, I know you love him and I liked him, too, but 2012 was a disaster for him and the injury made it worse.

I'd love to see him recover and become a solid NFL QB, because he's a great kid, but he wasn't 1.1 worthy.

That's nothing more than speculation to claim that Smith drops to the fourth. It's possible, because he clearly interviewed like ****ing shit, but I don't think that level of drop would have been likely.

And QBs with tools go early. Period. We learned that last year when ****ing Tannehill went #8 overall, which was absurd in many ways. But the new CBA has changed a lot.

Drafting Manuel gets you fired as a GM. He won't amount to anything in this league.

Took our shot? Where the **** do come up with that?! How is signing a UDFA "taking a shot"?

Jesus Christ; this fanbase is truly ****ing surreal..

I think GM's learned that over drafting and the "new" CBA weren't the panacea that many predicted.

LMAO

You're a tard

The new CBA changed the 2011 draft.

It didn't change the 2012 or 2013 draft.

Where do you think he should have gone? #20 overall? Then big deal. He was a first-round talent.

I hate that bullshit of, "I'd take him at #8, but not at #4."

I'm not in your fan base and I still think they were the right moves.

That says a lot though doesn't it?

Qbs with tools go high, tannehill etc, yet geno and this class dropped like turds.

And they're the size of a sunflower seed

This season is more than likely going to blow, and Alex will be right there with his lips firmly glued to the cocks of every opposing defense, leading the way.

Yeah, if I'm a Donkey fan, I'm absolutely LOVING these moves!

Gabbert? Well, despite the media's obsession, probably third round, like Foles.

Naturally I'm talking about post-CBA as a collective category, which it is. Cost is lower, and thus the risk is lower, too. You can turn and burn at QB without "killing the franchise," as so many Chiefs fans like to caution.

It says Geno interviewed like a scrub, but it says exactly what I've been arguing relative to Manuel.

Signing Bray was throwing shit at a wall, hoping it stuck. It's not a bad plan, but it's not an especially viable one, nor one you should pot commit yourself to.

Monetarily, the risk is lower.

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Bringing in Bray would have been an intelligent move, even if the Chiefs had selected a QB anywhere in the draft.

Signing Daniel, however, wow. Dumb as ****ing shit.

No, the risk ISN'T lower.

GM's and head coaches are still at risk.

They have four years, MAX. If it doesn't turn around, they're gone.

Gabbert wouldn't have been a first rounder in the 2013 draft, but only because the post RGIII/Luck draft climate is so ****ing stupid.

Had we drafted him in the third, would it have made a difference?

LMAO Still, I don't see how you could have done better.

QBs are a supply-demand issue. If you have two QB-deep drafts in a row with a league that gives them 3+ years, logic dictates that it's likely they won't be snapped up as quickly.

It's not absolutely a dispositive statement about the quality of the class.

Oh, and you mean the risk of potentially having zero ****ing chance of winning a SB because the QB is middling at best?

Whew. Glad we dodged that bullet.

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Oh yes! Let's not forget THAT brilliant stroke of ****ing genius! God damn, Dane; let's get the mighty 411 on THAT sweet-assed move, patn'a!

You're ****ing stupid, regardless of the fact the Gabbert got two head coaches and a GM fired.

No, not necessarily, because the teams with the supply aren't the only teams that passed on these qbs.

There was definitely a demand on them, as there always is or will be with qbs at the top of the draft.

But that's no different from taking any other approach. Alex Smith is a gutless ****ing moved, designed for nothing more than a CYA moment, assuming Reid and Dorsey have half a clue.

Given that the former is reportedly "in love" with Smith, though, we could be in deep ****ing shit.

It's not zero chance when the starter was drafted in the first round.

He most definitely would have. He won 10 games with skill position players far less talented than his successor had, who managed to win 8 and 5 games. He was a concussion away from a BCS game at Missouri. He's 6'5" with good mobility, top notch character, and a very strong arm.

He obviously had severe system issues and pocket presence problems, but there is no chance even the Chiefs would have passed on him at #1 overall last year. He was a superior prospect to Geno in every way.

LMAO very well.

Ok, so this year is SB or bust?

I thought the same thing with Quinn last year, but sometimes you have to flush even the double-tapered ones.

Cheers.

Wait, wait; are you REALLY trying to tell us that because Alex was a first rounder who has played long enough in this league to establish his mediocrity, that we should somehow throw a little money down on him in Vegas to win the Chiefs a Super Bowl?

Are you REALLY going this route?

Please think before replying.

I don't know what I can say to convince you.

Unless there's a "no-brainer", GM's and head coaches WILL NOT take a "chance" on a QB in the first round that needs to "sit" for a year.

This year alone, the Jets passed TWICE. The Cards, Jags, Chiefs and other QB needy teams passed.

Those days are over. LONG over.

Yeah, but by how much?

I don't believe there's as much separation between the two as you'd like to believe. Certainly not an entire round's worth.

He had enough flaws that he would have dropped significantly simply because OMG HE'S NOT RGIII.

Meanwhile guys like Ryan Tannehill went super ****ing high a year earlier.

It's stupid.

How am I supposed to respond to arbitrary comments that are tenuously connected to the line of argumentation?

This is how mothers get ****ed.

Jacksonville, Tennessee, Miami, Detroit, Cleveland, Tennessee, San Diego and St. Louis weren't taking a QB under almost any circumstance last year. That's eight of the top eleven.

Every year is SB or bust. That's what this game is, in case you've forgotten.

So Quinn=Smith?

I think Geno was a first round talent. I don't think there's a round's worth of difference either, and I think the post-QB hysteria definitely poisoned the well to an extent. I don't really disagree with you.

Well, that may be. Recent history says that first-round QBs are going to play, since '05 is a long time ago in terms of professional sports.

That said, I stand by my belief that the theory that a first-round QB MUST start is flawed. In so many ways.

Not 0%. Between 0 - 1%...

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Good God, how ****ing stupid are you?

What is the percentage of QB's taken in the first round that win a Super Bowl versus non-first rounders?

reerun much?

And if this philosophy is now the standard of the league, we are absolutely ****ed.

No, of course not. I thought TTC put it well when he said that Smith's mediocrity is prettier than most.

Comparing one round to six others combined.

That's fair!

Statistics, try to understand them.

Statistically, it's been proven time and again that the best place to find a franchise QB is in the first round. We need to sticky that stat or something.

I don't disagree with you in theory. I really don't.

But the game has changed and it's just not a reality in 2013.

Maybe it will come back around but my gut tells me that it won't, at least not in the immediate future.

I'm truly at a ****ing loss here.

But I will say this:

Your ground to stand on in terms of calling me an idiot has now thoroughly disappeared.

Have all the faith in this colossal shit-pile you please, champ; I'll just reserve mine until we actually throw the tard-shackles off and start making some moves that look to the future.

Was Blackledge the only first round quarterback in KC Chiefs history? I know Dawson was a first rounder but that was when the Chiefs were in Dallas and in a different football league.

Go edit something

Concepts just aren't your bag

Steve Fuller in 1979. A couple more in the 60s.

Jesus ****.

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Google, Mother****er.