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Matrix 10-03-2019 07:15 PM

Color me shocked, but this bullpen is a dumpster fire.

George Liquor 10-03-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14497339)
I'm not even butthurt.

All I said was that it didn't look like Goldschmidt kept his foot on the bag because you could clearly see his foot come down and press the bag after the runner made it to first.

From celebrating a dynasty to bitching about how the cardinals are lucky in October. How far you have fallen.

Marcellus 10-03-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14497344)
Yes. I am your uncle.

ROFL

jd1020 10-03-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14497344)
Yes. I am your uncle.

So you are a gay pedophile? Not sure thats something you want to admit to.

Marcellus 10-03-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrix (Post 14497347)
Color me shocked, but this bullpen is a dumpster fire.

STFU

BigRedChief 10-03-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14497327)
Whew.

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 14497328)
That will do it. Great win.

pulled that shit out. Best case scenario has come true gentlemen. Got the win, Got the best or one of the best pitchers in the game going tomorrow and saved Hudson to back up Waino or game 4 at Bush.

Megatron96 10-03-2019 07:16 PM

Molina needs to sit that kid down and have a serious talk about his attitude

Marcellus 10-03-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14497350)
So you are a gay pedophile? Not sure thats something you want to admit to.

He aint gay, you are a bitch, and he is your uncle by marriage.

jd1020 10-03-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14497355)
He aint gay, you are a bitch, and he is your uncle by marriage.

You sure? Seems pretty gay to say you raped boys.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2019 07:18 PM

Dude was obviously out at first

jd1020 10-03-2019 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14497348)
From celebrating a dynasty to bitching about how the cardinals are lucky in October. How far you have fallen.

Never said the Cardinals were lucky. I just question what good is replay for even when there's evidence to suggest the call on the field was wrong and it isn't overturned?

Cubs have benefited from calls at homeplate in the playoffs because of that. You may recall the bang bang play at the plate when I think it was Gonzalez running for the Dodgers and he was called out because he hand was "hovering" over the plate.

Jewish Rabbi 10-03-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14497359)
Dude was obviously out at first

Not according to JustDildos1020

BigRedChief 10-03-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14497348)
From celebrating a dynasty to bitching about how the cardinals are lucky in October. How far you have fallen.

Back to the way things ought to be. ;)

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14497363)
Not according to JustDildos1020

He's consistently wrong, so...

jd1020 10-03-2019 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14497368)
He's consistently wrong, so...

That's ironic coming from you when it would be damn hard to even distinguish yourself as a Cardinals fan if you read through your posts in this thread.

Marcellus 10-03-2019 07:23 PM

Who's managing the Cubs again?

George Liquor 10-03-2019 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14497362)
Never said the Cardinals were lucky. I just question what good is replay for even when there's evidence to suggest the call on the field was wrong and it isn't overturned?

Cubs have benefited from calls at homeplate in the playoffs because of that. You may recall the bang bang play at the plate when I think it was Gonzalez running for the Dodgers and he was called out because he hand was "hovering" over the plate.

Cope

kcpasco 10-03-2019 07:23 PM

No evidence to tell if his cleat was not touching the bag but of course the Flub fan says obvious out.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2019 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14497371)
That's ironic coming from you when it would be damn hard to even distinguish yourself as a Cardinals fan if you read through your posts in this thread.

When you win as much as they have in their history...it takes a lot to wiggle the worm

Jewish Rabbi 10-03-2019 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 14497378)
No evidence to tell if his cleat was not touching the bag but of course the Flub fan says obvious out.

Not even Braves fans on Reddit think he was safe.

Hoover 10-03-2019 07:28 PM

Sadly I think its Theo...

BigRedChief 10-03-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 14497378)
No evidence to tell if his cleat was not touching the bag but of course the Flub fan says obvious out.

like the announcers said, if he’d been called safe, it would have stood. Either way.

This is a baseball replay. They really need irrefutable conclusive evidence to overturn a call. That just wasn’t there.

Marcellus 10-03-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14497401)
Not even Braves fans on Reddit think he was safe.

Its just not conclusive enough to make call outside of the guy standing right there. Its a non issue.

They lost the game at the top of the 9th not the bottom.

Matrix 10-03-2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14497359)
Dude was obviously out at first

Great, now we're going to hear the non-stop whining from the Atlanta media.

Marcellus 10-03-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrix (Post 14497420)
Great, now we're going to hear the non-stop whining from the Atlanta media.

And you apparently.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrix (Post 14497420)
Great, now we're going to hear the non-stop whining from the Atlanta media.

Let them whine. He was out...

kcxiv 10-03-2019 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrix (Post 14497420)
Great, now we're going to hear the non-stop whining from the Atlanta media.

as long as the final is a W, **** what anyone says.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2019 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 14497446)
as long as the final is a W, **** what anyone says.

It was the right call. Call it like I see it.

VAChief 10-03-2019 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrix (Post 14497037)
Upcoming sweep. They don't belong on this stage.

ROFLROFL

BigRedChief 10-03-2019 08:16 PM

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Marcellus 10-03-2019 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14497553)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">�� <a href="https://t.co/jgPh3WcVot">https://t.co/jgPh3WcVot</a></p>&mdash; Jack Flaherty (@Jack9Flaherty) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jack9Flaherty/status/1179792692307484682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It seems amazing to me that with all the body motion and movement Gibson's mechanics were repeatable.

And kind of funny to see all the white shirts with ties in the stands at the end, my how things have changed.

And kudos to Jack for repping the GOAT today before his start tomorrow.

Jewish Rabbi 10-03-2019 08:44 PM

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Simply Red 10-03-2019 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14497164)
Hate hearing the tomahawk chop by the Braves.

**** you

Marco Polo 10-04-2019 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14497353)
pulled that shit out. Best case scenario has come true gentlemen. Got the win, Got the best or one of the best pitchers in the game going tomorrow and saved Hudson to back up Waino or game 4 at Bush.



That’s a winner!

BigRedChief 10-04-2019 06:54 AM

Who thinks Flaherty will have an off game?

Some stats even a non-stat nerd like me can understand that he's really good. At this moment in time, today, maybe the best pitcher in baseball.

2nd half - Pitched 15 games -11.29 SO per 9 innings - Batters averaged .143 - WHIP 0.71 - ERA 0.91

With that natural talent comes that bulldog mentality on the mound that resembles or reminds me of Carpenter and Gibson. He's not going to fail under the spotlight.
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DJ's left nut 10-04-2019 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14497267)
This is why we don't trust Carlos, DJ.

And I said he'll likely stumble at some point and could break our hearts in the post-season.

Such is the nature of relief pitching.

But he's still unquestionably the best we have back there and among the better relievers in the game over the 2nd half.

He'll be fine. The number of high stress pitches he threw bothers me for today's game, but taking some of the piss and vinegar out of him will probably be a good thing.

Kid's amped up. You could see him trying to start shit with Acuna after the 3rd out - he was just way overamped out there last night. It'll be alright - he'll get it under control.

Marcellus 10-04-2019 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14498125)
And I said he'll likely stumble at some point and could break our hearts in the post-season.

Such is the nature of relief pitching.

But he's still unquestionably the best we have back there and among the better relievers in the game over the 2nd half.

He'll be fine. The number of high stress pitches he threw bothers me for today's game, but taking some of the piss and vinegar out of him will probably be a good thing.

Kid's amped up. You could see him trying to start shit with Acuna after the 3rd out - he was just way overamped out there last night. It'll be alright - he'll get it under control.


This may explain it a bit.

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In 48 appearances this season, Cardinals closer Carlos Martínez allowed just two home runs, a total that was matched in a span of nine pitches in the ninth inning.

Already emotional because of the death of a close relative back home in the Dominican Republic the night before, he became so irate at the little shuffle step Ronald Acuña Jr. performed while rounding third base on his home run trot that he had to be forcibly restrained by catcher Yadier Molina near the mound.

“I simply want him to respect the game and respect me as a veteran player,” Martínez said of Acuña. “That’s it. Just play the game.”

VAChief 10-04-2019 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14498064)
Who thinks Flaherty will have an off game?

Some stats even a non-stat nerd like me can understand that he's really good. At this moment in time, today, maybe the best pitcher in baseball.

2nd half - Pitched 15 games -11.29 SO per 9 innings - Batters averaged .143 - WHIP 0.71 - ERA 0.91

With that natural talent comes that bulldog mentality on the mound that resembles or reminds me of Carpenter and Gibson. He's not going to fail under the spotlight.
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We need him to just be himself. It will great to see how he responds. The big moment can get even the best of them. There is nothing like pitching in these situations (ask Kershaw).

George Liquor 10-04-2019 03:53 PM

Nice heads up play by Wong. Get the bats going, this is an easily winnable game.

BigRedChief 10-04-2019 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14499115)
Nice heads up play by Wong. Get the bats going, this is an easily winnable game.

Bader is worthless against that slider. 2 hits? Doesn’t seem to be that great of stuff compared to other pitchers they have jacked up.

Flaherty I’m sure was a little pumped up to start the game but he’s rolling now. Really embrassing the lazy 40/40 lead off guy last couple of AB’s.

BigRedChief 10-04-2019 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14499115)
Nice heads up play by Wong. Get the bats going, this is an easily winnable game.

Really well done and executed. With the pitcher coming up and Flaherty rolling, the pitcher has no chance. not a bad idea. Maybe they throw one away or the other team makes a perfect throw to get us out.

Megatron96 10-04-2019 04:23 PM

I didn't know Martinez was dealing with a death of a close family member. I take back what I wrote last night. Considering what he was going through, he did great.

Megatron96 10-04-2019 04:25 PM

Yeah, Yadi!

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-04-2019 04:27 PM

Absolutely heinous offensive performance. This guy is the worst starter in the playoffs by far.

George Liquor 10-04-2019 04:27 PM

Gonna waste another qs from jack

George Liquor 10-04-2019 04:42 PM

****

Megatron96 10-04-2019 04:43 PM

Bad mistake

Megatron96 10-04-2019 04:44 PM

Come on Flaherty, get this guy

BigRedChief 10-04-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14499232)
Bad mistake

slider has been killing them, why throw a fastball? It could end up right where it went. Hasn’t hung a slider. Bad pitch selection.

George Liquor 10-04-2019 04:55 PM

These idiots are just blindly swinging away at breaking balls now. Two horrible ABs in a row.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-04-2019 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14499259)
These idiots are just blindly swinging away at breaking balls now. Two horrible ABs in a row.

To be fair, neither DeJong or Bader can hit worth a ****. The Cardinals made the postseason on the back of great defense and good pitching, but the defense has been awful the first two games and the bullpen has sprung leaks everywhere the last month.

With an offense this bad in the postseason, there aren't a lot of paths to victory. They're lucky they even made it.

Megatron96 10-04-2019 05:18 PM

Come on Yadi. Just one more time

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-04-2019 05:27 PM

Dude's curve was nowhere near the zone and Wong just kept hacking at shit. That AB was an epitome of the game. Same with Edman. What the **** is he thinking swinging 3-1 leading off an inning down three against a pitcher with bad control?

George Liquor 10-04-2019 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14499308)
Dude's curve was nowhere near the zone and Wong just kept hacking at shit. That AB was an epitome of the game. Same with Edman. What the **** is he thinking swinging 3-1 leading off an inning down three against a pitcher with bad control?

That's what I said, but you scolded me.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-04-2019 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14499323)
That's what I said, but you scolded me.

No I didn't. I said their offense sucks, and it does.

BigRedChief 10-04-2019 05:39 PM

Pathetic AB’s by the Cardinals hitters. Yadi swinging at a pitch around his neck. Wong swinging at a 1 strike pitch that bounces 3 feet in front of the plate. Geeezzz

Frazod 10-04-2019 06:11 PM

The Braves are just a better team; I don't think there's anybody here who doesn't realize that. With the exception of Yadi, every position player they have is better than our counterpart, and pitching is pretty much a wash.

Obviously the better team doesn't always win, especially in a short series. But at the end of the day, we were the least crappy team in a bad division, and I don't seeing us winning this. I'd love to be wrong.

I'd be rooting for the Braves were they not playing the Cardinals, and I'll root for them if they advance. They might actually have a shot against the Dodgers.

Jewish Rabbi 10-04-2019 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14499358)
The Braves are just a better team; I don't think there's anybody here who doesn't realize that. With the exception of Yadi, every position player they have is better than our counterpart, and pitching is pretty much a wash.

Obviously the better team doesn't always win, especially in a short series. But at the end of the day, we were the least crappy team in a bad division, and I don't seeing us winning this. I'd love to be wrong.

I'd be rooting for the Braves were they not playing the Cardinals, and I'll root for them if they advance. They might actually have a shot against the Dodgers.

Are you showing your wife this post in an attempt to get some?

Frazod 10-04-2019 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14499367)
Are you showing your wife this post in an attempt to get some?

Maybe. :)

BigRedChief 10-05-2019 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14499358)
The Braves are just a better team; I don't think there's anybody here who doesn't realize that. With the exception of Yadi, every position player they have is better than our counterpart, and pitching is pretty much a wash.

Obviously the better team doesn't always win, especially in a short series. But at the end of the day, we were the least crappy team in a bad division, and I don't seeing us winning this. I'd love to be wrong.

I'd be rooting for the Braves were they not playing the Cardinals, and I'll root for them if they advance. They might actually have a shot against the Dodgers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14499367)
Are you showing your wife this post in an attempt to get some?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14499373)
Maybe. :)

Maybe if you brought her flowers more, picked up your shit off the floor did the dishes etc, you wouldn't have to debase yourself into being a Braves fan.....ROFL

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-05-2019 11:18 AM

If you think about it, it's pretty amazing the Cardinals are even here. They are, by far, the worst of all of these teams. Their offense is an absolute abomination. Edman led the team in wRC and his total would rank 65th if the league, if he even qualified. After that it was Goldschmidt, who would be 87th.

They only have two of the top 110 hitters in baseball.

We should probably enjoy the ride, and hope that the FO is smart enough to realize that this team is not that good (fat chance, though).

Pasta Little Brioni 10-05-2019 12:27 PM

Average team with a terrible GM...what could go wrong. It's not a terrible roster, but we expect more than most

Frazod 10-05-2019 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14500258)
Average team with a terrible GM...what could go wrong. It's not a terrible roster, but we expect more than most

They won the division and staked the goddamn Cubs. That was really all I realistically wanted. Anything else is just gravy.

But I think the gravy boat's pretty much empty at this point.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-05-2019 05:59 PM

My spirit animal:

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George Liquor 10-05-2019 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14500666)
My spirit animal:

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Too risky of a signing

Deberg_1990 10-05-2019 06:41 PM

I would just kill myself if I was a Twins fan and knew I had to play the Yankees in the playoffs

Jewish Rabbi 10-05-2019 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14500754)
I would just kill myself if I was a Twins fan and knew I had to play the Yankees in the playoffs

Can we pretend you are?

Chief Roundup 10-05-2019 06:59 PM

MLB needs a hard salary cap like the NFL.

BigRedChief 10-05-2019 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14500790)
MLB needs a hard salary cap like the NFL.

not happening. Tried really hard in the 90’s almost killed the game. Only McGuire/Sosa HR race pulled it out of the abyss.

crayzkirk 10-05-2019 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14500790)
MLB needs a hard salary cap like the NFL.

Yup... The current luxury tax doesn't prevent teams like the Yankees from simply buying up most of the talent.

jd1020 10-05-2019 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14500790)
MLB needs a hard salary cap like the NFL.

Imagine if the NFL had fully guaranteed contracts that wouldn't allow teams to bend their salary cap to their needs.

Does the hard cap increase the odds of the little guys being able to compete? Is that why the superbowl is losing millions of viewers each year because everyone is sick to ****ing death of the Patriots?

Chief Roundup 10-05-2019 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14500857)
Imagine if the NFL had fully guaranteed contracts that wouldn't allow teams to bend their salary cap to their needs.

Does the hard cap increase the odds of the little guys being able to compete? Is that why the superbowl is losing millions of viewers each year because everyone is sick to ****ing death of the Patriots?

Like most of baseball is tired of the Yankees, the Patriots of the MLB?

Chief Roundup 10-05-2019 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14500821)
not happening. Tried really hard in the 90’s almost killed the game. Only McGuire/Sosa HR race pulled it out of the abyss.

No it was not. That was from the strike.

jd1020 10-05-2019 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14500864)
Like most of baseball is tired of the Yankees, the Patriots of the MLB?

The Yankees haven't been to a WS in 10 years.

TomBarndtsTwin 10-05-2019 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14500864)
Like most of baseball is tired of the Yankees, the Patriots of the MLB?

The Patriots of the MLB?!? Are you serious? Maybe the late 90’s version.

The Yankees haven’t dominated the sport since then. They won one World Series title in the last 15 years, the same amount as the Royals and one less than the Cardinals.

Calling the Yankees the equivalent of the Patriots is both insulting to the Patsies and a compliment not worthy of the Yankers.

Chief Roundup 10-05-2019 08:20 PM

Most teams want this. The teams have been using the Luxury Tax as sort of a cap.
It was just last year that the Yankees and Dodgers filed a grievance against several teams for not spending the shared monies of the luxury taxes as intended.

2112 10-05-2019 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 14500824)
Yup... The current luxury tax doesn't prevent teams like the Yankees from simply buying up most of the talent.

What talent have the Yankees been “buying up” recently? Gio urshela cost $25,000, judge is making a whopping $550,000 a year. Most of them are homegrown.

They did sign DJ for 2 years on the cheap because he wanted to play for the Yankees.

George Steinbrenner’s been dead for 9 years and his sons hate the luxury tax and are not spending like crazy anymore.

Chief Roundup 10-05-2019 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14500876)
The Yankees haven't been to a WS in 10 years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14500878)
The Patriots of the MLB?!? Are you serious? Maybe the late 90’s version.

The Yankees haven’t dominated the sport since then. They won one World Series title in the last 15 years, the same amount as the Royals and one less than the Cardinals.

Calling the Yankees the equivalent of the Patriots is both insulting to the Patsies and a compliment not worthy of the Yankers.

I didn't clarify that well enough. The Yankees are synonyms with the most money paid for players. The teams that spend the most win the most. The Sox, the Astros, the Cubs, the Dodgers, etc. There have been a few that were not top spenders.

BigRedChief 10-05-2019 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14500873)
No it was not. That was from the strike.

and the strike was over a hard salary cap.

Chief Roundup 10-05-2019 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14500942)
and the strike was over a hard salary cap.

That is a little simplistic. It was not a hard salary cap back then. It was just a salary cap and the problem was about revenue sharing. Let us not forget that the CBA negotiations were pushed until the final year. You don't think it was a huge deal to the players that they wanted to reduce their share of the revenues from 56 to 50%, oh and they expected the players to pay for their pensions and healthcare out of that reduced portion?
The hard cap was not the deal breaker.


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