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ThaVirus 05-07-2021 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14941586)
11 TDs for a rookie who's looking to start the season as a backup is a bit wishful, I think.

Guy was unexpectedly thrusted into the starting role and still came nowhere near 11 TDs.

el borracho 05-07-2021 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15665852)

Nice run. Still not representative of the kind of violent running typical to Hunt.
Hunt knocked defenders in the dirt in 2018. Not really CEH's style (which is fine). CEH is more likely to spin away from defenders; Hunt was more likely to put his head down and go through defenders or stiff arm guys to the ground.

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O.city 05-08-2021 07:56 AM

Get running backs that avoid hits, not try to make them.

Oh and don’t draft them in the first round !!argh

saphojunkie 05-08-2021 11:11 AM

I love eating KFC.

That’s Kenny’s Fine Catch, a seafood restaurant. What?!! You don’t own abbreviations! Everyone will get it that I’m talking about Kenny’s Fine Catch!!

Tribal Warfare 05-08-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15666432)
I love eating KFC.

That’s Kenny’s Fine Catch, a seafood restaurant. What?!! You don’t own abbreviations! Everyone will get it that I’m talking about Kenny’s Fine Catch!!


OBJ is now Orlando Brown Jr because **** media conformity and wwe'll be using that more often than referring to other or are you a fan of other player more?

Like MJ - Michael Jordan or Michael Jackson

LT - Ladanion Tomlinson or Lawrence Taylor

Larry Johnson which one though Basketball or Football

Mike Williams - **** dude who are you referring to I need to get the phone book out

RealSNR 05-08-2021 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15666154)
Nice run. Still not representative of the kind of violent running typical to Hunt.
Hunt knocked defenders in the dirt in 2018. Not really CEH's style (which is fine). CEH is more likely to spin away from defenders; Hunt was more likely to put his head down and go through defenders or stiff arm guys to the ground.

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Hunt had power, but he wasn't a power back. He was just really tough to bring down because of his incredible balance. He's not Mike Alstott. A lot of those "trucking over guys" highlights are just him shedding tackles, not running through people.

Rasputin 05-08-2021 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15666154)
Nice run. Still not representative of the kind of violent running typical to Hunt.
Hunt knocked defenders in the dirt in 2018. Not really CEH's style (which is fine). CEH is more likely to spin away from defenders; Hunt was more likely to put his head down and go through defenders or stiff arm guys to the ground.

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He bulldozed Buffalo Bills when we played them during the season. Most running backs don't have a day like he did that day.

JakeF 05-09-2021 03:14 AM

I really hope to see CEH explode this year. Mahomes loves to push it down the field but we need him to drop a few more off to Helaire. We need him to get that wheel route down pat this season. It will force defenses to cover another portion of the field and loosen up the double on Kelce.

More receiving yards for CEH this year.

1200 yards rushing
400 yards receiving

Titty Meat 05-09-2021 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15666290)
Get running backs that avoid hits, not try to make them.

Oh and don’t draft them in the first round !!argh

Kareem Hunt says hi

TEX 05-09-2021 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15666947)
I really hope to see CEH explode this year. Mahomes loves to push it down the field but we need him to drop a few more off to Helaire. We need him to get that wheel route down pat this season. It will force defenses to cover another portion of the field and loosen up the double on Kelce.

More receiving yards for CEH this year.

1200 yards rushing
400 yards receiving

Would be nice. Those are Kareem Hunt numbers when he was with KC...:shrug:

InChiefsHeaven 05-09-2021 06:44 AM

I'm not pining for Kareem Hunt...but those highlights really show what a missed opportunity that guy had. Man, I miss that guy. What a putz. I loved watching him truck dudes...now he's not even a blip on the radar. Idiot.

O.city 05-09-2021 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15666948)
Kareem Hunt says hi

Running backs that get hit a lot get hurt

Rasputin 06-21-2021 04:16 PM

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This kid didn't get OTAs last year and look what he did. I can't wait for our offense it's going shoot like an Uzi.

Bl00dyBizkitz 06-21-2021 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15716372)
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This kid didn't get OTAs last year and look what he did. I can't wait for our offense it's going shoot like an Uzi.

LMAO

Halfcan 06-21-2021 06:23 PM

How many years do we have to hear about Hunt?

He is gone folks- time to get over it.

Chris Meck 06-21-2021 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15716372)
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This kid didn't get OTAs last year and look what he did. I can't wait for our offense it's going shoot like an Uzi.

Don't say 'Uzi'.

Pooch 08-21-2021 09:57 AM

How worried are we about his recent injury?

CasselGotPeedOn 08-21-2021 09:58 AM

Dude keeps missing holes.

Easy 6 08-21-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15794254)
Dude keeps missing holes.

I only noticed one example of it, but it was pretty glaring

The right side opened up a gash you could literally drive a truck through, and he failed badly at taking advantage of it… if it starts happening in the regular season, I’ll start worrying

Tribal Warfare 08-21-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15794254)
Dude keeps missing holes.

Heh!

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-21-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pooch (Post 15794253)
How worried are we about his recent injury?

Ian Rappaport just reported not serious, NOT a high ankle, should be fine and ready for the season.

louie aguiar 08-21-2021 10:45 AM

I think we may regret passing in Jonathan Taylor. CEH is a nice back but he’s not explosive and doesn’t have the breakaway speed/ big play ability that Taylor has.

-King- 08-21-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15794291)
I think we may regret passing in Jonathan Taylor. CEH is a nice back but he’s not explosive and doesn’t have the breakaway speed/ big play ability that Taylor has.

Yeah he seems solid but we really haven't got any flashes of anymore more. Hopefully that changes in the regular season.

I just keeps thinking of what Jamaal Charles would do with the holes we've been seeing the past 2 games. It would be ridiculous.

Pooch 08-21-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15794294)
Yeah he seems solid but we really haven't got any flashes of anymore more. Hopefully that changes in the regular season.

I just keeps thinking of what Jamaal Charles would do with the holes we've been seeing the past 2 games. It would be ridiculous.

Or K. Hunt!!

BigRedChief 08-21-2021 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15794285)
Ian Rappaport just reported not serious, NOT a high ankle, should be fine and ready for the season.

Great news. He doesn’t report BS.

Deberg_1990 08-21-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15794291)
I think we may regret passing in Jonathan Taylor. CEH is a nice back but he’s not explosive and doesn’t have the breakaway speed/ big play ability that Taylor has.

I like CEH a lot. Just don’t think he’s big enough to carry a load by himself.

WhawhaWhat 08-21-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15794285)
Ian Rappaport just reported not serious, NOT a high ankle, should be fine and ready for the season.

He's just repeating what Andy Reid said and Andy lies about injuries all the time.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-21-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15794291)
I think we may regret passing in Jonathan Taylor. CEH is a nice back but he’s not explosive and doesn’t have the breakaway speed/ big play ability that Taylor has.

Mahomes told Veach he wanted Clyde. Thats all you need to know

Chief Pagan 08-21-2021 04:13 PM

And as great as QB as Mahomes is, maybe this is a warning about letting him play at general manager...

PattyFlakes 08-21-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 15794593)
And as great as QB as Mahomes is, maybe this is a warning about letting him play at general manager...

Or maybe people are rushing to judgement on CEH after one season with an abbreviated offseason and a revolving door of an offensive line in front of him. But that can’t be possible. Nobody would overreact or jump to conclusions here :p

FloridaMan88 08-21-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15794285)
Ian Rappaport just reported not serious, NOT a high ankle, should be fine and ready for the season.

Considering the shitty condition of the field last night, the Chiefs should have refused to play the game.

TEX 08-21-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15794291)
I think we may regret passing in Jonathan Taylor. CEH is a nice back but he’s not explosive and doesn’t have the breakaway speed/ big play ability that Taylor has.

Yep. Taylor was the RB I wanted. Never liked the CEH pick from the beginning. He's too small and a liability in pass protection. But, I'll defer to the wisdom of Veach and Reid. We'll see...

Red Dawg 08-21-2021 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15794634)
Yep. Taylor was the RB I wanted. Never liked the CEH pick from the beginning. He's too small and a liability in pass protection. But, I'll defer to the wisdom of Veach and Reid. We'll see...

Let's not forget Mahomes. He wanted him.

TEX 08-21-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15794672)
Let's not forget Mahomes. He wanted him.

Yes. I know. I'm not sure if it was more of an endorsement or if they went after the guy that he wanted. I don't want to sound like I'm blaming anybody, I just wanted Taylor the whole way and thought he would be the more complete back.

ThyKingdomCome15 08-21-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15794602)
Considering the shitty condition of the field last night, the Chiefs should have refused to play the game.

The cookie sheet was only half baked. Very dangerous.

RealSNR 08-21-2021 08:13 PM

LMAO

Mahomes didn't make the decision. Veach did. He had made the decision, then texted Mahomes, and Mahomes said "CEH". Veach was like, "Cool, same page then."

Patrick isn't playing GM, nor are the Chiefs bowing to his will on personnel matters. Stop this dumb shit.

InChiefsHeaven 08-21-2021 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15794768)
LMAO

Mahomes didn't make the decision. Veach did. He had made the decision, then texted Mahomes, and Mahomes said "CEH". Veach was like, "Cool, same page then."

Patrick isn't playing GM, nor are the Chiefs bowing to his will on personnel matters. Stop this dumb shit.

No shit. Geeez...

Chiefspants 08-21-2021 08:46 PM

I couldn’t care less about CEH’s breakaway ability. Priest’s longest run in 2003 was 31 yards. He was drafted for his pass catching ability, which never really appeared last year (and was sorely needed vs the Bucs). This was what set him apart from the other running backs available and what will be disappointing is if he never develops the critical chemistry Damien Williams had with Patrick in each postseason.

smithandrew051 08-21-2021 08:57 PM

CEH will be fine. He just needs a little more patience.

Last year probably held him back a bit. He couldn’t be patient. The line couldn’t run block, so he needed to just take what he could get every time.

He needs a little prime Leveon Bell to his game. Our line won’t be able to hold like the Steelers were allowed to, but the holes will be there.

-King- 08-21-2021 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15794807)
CEH will be fine. He just needs a little more patience.

Last year probably held him back a bit. He couldn’t be patient. The line couldn’t run block, so he needed to just take what he could get every time.

He needs a little prime Leveon Bell to his game. Our line won’t be able to hold like the Steelers were allowed to, but the holes will be there.

I made a post last year about Bell helping CEH with his vision because I noticed him missing holes then too...but then Bell turned out to be extremely shitty so welp.

RustShack 08-21-2021 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15794814)
I made a post last year about Bell helping CEH with his vision because I noticed him missing holes then too...but then Bell turned out to be extremely shitty so welp.

CEH was great before the OL got dinged up. With said banged up OL, Bell was moved to the bench.

ThyKingdomCome15 08-21-2021 09:50 PM

CEH is playing at a high level as is for all the doubters. He would have lead all rookie RB's had he not gotten hurt.

eDave 08-21-2021 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 15794744)
The cookie sheet was only half baked. Very dangerous.

Ton of rain recently didn't help. Most rain in a very long time here.

eDave 08-21-2021 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15794807)
CEH will be fine. He just needs a little more patience.

Last year probably held him back a bit. He couldn’t be patient. The line couldn’t run block, so he needed to just take what he could get every time.

He needs a little prime Leveon Bell to his game. Our line won’t be able to hold like the Steelers were allowed to, but the holes will be there.

Exactly. This isn't just him getting used to a new line. It's him getting used to a new line that is getting used to being a new line.

Probably takes time for all of that to come together. And that includes Mahomes playing when many think he shouldn't. Reps matter. A lot.

suzzer99 08-22-2021 01:51 AM

CEH is a super-high character guy who had his best games against Alabama and the cream of the SEC crop. Dude battles harder to finish runs and scratch out a couple extra yards than any back I've ever seen. I have no doubt he'll work hard and hopefully figure things out.

At least we don't have to worry about him kicking some girl in the butt outside a hotel room.

TEX 08-22-2021 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15794965)
CEH is a super-high character guy who had his best games against Alabama and the cream of the SEC crop. Dude battles harder to finish runs and scratch out a couple extra yards than any back I've ever seen. I have no doubt he'll work hard and hopefully figure things out.

At least we don't have to worry about him kicking some girl in the butt outside a hotel room.

True. So there's that, even if he fails to live up to his #1 draft pick status.

Tribal Warfare 09-12-2021 05:59 PM

OK guys, we have to start looking elsewhere when it comes to CEH. The running lanes were open but he wasn't hitting them and was pussy footing

Bl00dyBizkitz 09-12-2021 06:01 PM

Its becoming a bit of a concern, yes.

Its a long season though, I'm giving it time.

DTVietnam 09-12-2021 06:03 PM

Lets not jump the gun on CEH..he missed some holes today..but he ran hard and got some important yards..

i think he will be a factor in the passing game going forward. ..

we always have Derrick Gore if not ;)

louie aguiar 09-12-2021 06:05 PM

Playing Cleveland makes me bitter about losing Kareem Hunt. CEH is a decent back but he’s not Hunt. We could use that kind of attitude on offense.

MahomesMagic 09-12-2021 06:06 PM

There was a bit of predictability to our run game.

Give credit to the Browns who seemed to guess correctly most of the time.

Hopefully Reid will do less of the early down run/later downs pass mix.

Ron Swanson 09-12-2021 06:07 PM

He looked like shit today, very disappointing.

TwistedChief 09-12-2021 06:07 PM

I'm confused and disappointed.

It's early for sure. But I kinda feel like he might be moving backward a bit.

In any case, it might take time for the OL to gel and for him to get comfortable with that. I still think he has tons of potential.

Chiefspants 09-12-2021 06:11 PM

What concerns me more than his rushing is his complete absence in the passing game.

TwistedChief 09-12-2021 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15828661)
What concerns me more than his rushing is his complete absence in the passing game.

Everyone but Kelce and Hill kinda forgotten.

Sassy Squatch 09-12-2021 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15828661)
What concerns me more than his rushing is his complete absence in the passing game.

Yep. Granted, he hasn't really been given the chance yet.

Tribal Warfare 09-12-2021 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15828674)
Yep. Granted, he hasn't really been given the chance yet.

There may be a reason for that

Mecca 09-12-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15828684)
There may be a reason for that

If you play other RBs or think he's not the guy that is a god awful draft pick.

Chiefspants 09-12-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15828674)
Yep. Granted, he hasn't really been given the chance yet.

Even Hunt had a few games where he got stonewalled at the line, but where him and a healthy Damien Williams made up for that was how clutch they were as receivers out of the backfield when Kelce and Hill were blanketed. This was supposed to be what separated CEH from the other RB's, but we just have not seen that yet. Hunt and DWill were also aces as blockers for Patrick in the backfield, and that might be the most concerning part of CEH's game so far.

Mecca 09-12-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15828697)
Even Hunt had a few games where he got stonewalled at the line, but where him and a healthy Damien Williams made up for that was how clutch they were as receivers out of the backfield when Kelce and Hill were blanketed. This was supposed to be what separated CEH from the other RB's, but we just have not seen that yet.

Alot of it is because they pull him in obvious pass downs because apparently they don't trust his blitz pickup.

Sassy Squatch 09-12-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15828684)
There may be a reason for that

Sure ****ing hope not. His abilities as a receiver were the edge that led to us drafting him.

Rasputin 09-12-2021 06:18 PM

CEH is going have big games and games that he doesn't do all that much but I'm still happy and stoked that he is a Chief and he is going make some people look foolish.



This offensive line is a work in progress those guys gel together and we will be unstoppable.

TambaBerry 09-12-2021 06:18 PM

Idk I didn't see that many holes today

Chiefspants 09-12-2021 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15828701)
Alot of it is because they pull him in obvious pass downs because apparently they don't trust his blitz pickup.

Blitz pick-up is an understated part of Hunt and Damien's games that we sorely miss right now. CEH's biggest weakness imho.

BryanBusby 09-12-2021 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15828623)
Playing Cleveland makes me bitter about losing Kareem Hunt. CEH is a decent back but he’s not Hunt. We could use that kind of attitude on offense.

Me too. The Browns have been a championship team with Kareem.

Tribal Warfare 09-12-2021 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15828703)
CEH is going have big games and games that he doesn't do all that much but I'm still happy and stoked that he is a Chief and he is going make some people look foolish.



This offensive line is a work in progress those guys gel together and we will be unstoppable.

The OL did their jobs, Clyde ****ed up the opportunities for big gains

Wisconsin_Chief 09-12-2021 06:20 PM

I think that Clyde's skill set is a good fit for the offense, but obviously the Chiefs make no effort to get him the ball consistently. That's very important for a guy like him. Any game the Chiefs have made him a big part of the game plan, he has performed extremely well.

He's not a good blocker right now which is going to cut into his playing time a ton, Andy trusts Williams way more on passing downs. It's a tough situation. If a player isn't fitting in exactly like Andy wants or if that player has one flaw that hinders Andy's game plan, he tends to just forget about that person very quickly.

ThyKingdomCome15 09-12-2021 06:21 PM

It was a tough day in the trenches all around. DL showed up late. Chris Jones had a big day.

Easy 6 09-12-2021 06:23 PM

Hopefully it’s just a matter of learning this new power game, it just kinda looks like he’s overthinking it and not trusting his instincts… he’s running to the prescribed hole, not the one that opens up

There is still hope left though IMHO, he didn’t look like this the first few weeks last season… just gimme something better next week

-King- 09-12-2021 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15828697)
Even Hunt had a few games where he got stonewalled at the line, but where him and a healthy Damien Williams made up for that was how clutch they were as receivers out of the backfield when Kelce and Hill were blanketed. This was supposed to be what separated CEH from the other RB's, but we just have not seen that yet. Hunt and DWill were also aces as blockers for Patrick in the backfield, and that might be the most concerning part of CEH's game so far.

The fact that he has to be pulled every 3rd and long for Darrell Williams of all people is very concerning. Williams isn't bad, but he's absolutely not the guy that youd think would be a 3rd down back. I dont know why McKinnon didn't even get any snaps on offense today.

But I noticed issues in CEHs vision and ability to hit the hole last year and it looks more of the same this year. He's not a bad player but he's looking more and more like a #2.

Deberg_1990 09-12-2021 06:25 PM

He’s ok for our offense. He’s not built for short yardage at all. Sometimes he dances too much instead of trusting his hole is going to be there. He’s never going to be a guy who can carry the team on his back and doesn’t need to be.

JakeF 09-12-2021 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15828743)
He’s ok for our offense. He’s not built for short yardage at all. Sometimes he dances too much instead of trusting his hole is going to be there. He’s never going to be a guy who can carry the team on his back and doesn’t need to be.

He might be built for our offense if we could block. Right now, we need a battering ram that slams forward for 3 yards after contact. It was pretty startling how much harder Cleveland's RB ran than ours.

Chubb and Hunt were men determined to take every inch they could. Our RB's just take what they can get, very relaxed.

ChiefsFanatic 09-12-2021 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15828738)
The fact that he has to be pulled every 3rd and long for Darrell Williams of all people is very concerning. Williams isn't bad, but he's absolutely not the guy that youd think would be a 3rd down back. I dont know why McKinnon didn't even get any snaps on offense today.



But I noticed issues in CEHs vision and ability to hit the hole last year and it looks more of the same this year. He's not a bad player but he's looking more and more like a #2.

There were at least 2 runs where CEH basically cut the wrong way, when the hole or alley was open wide and just a couple of steps away. He did it quite a bit last year too.

If he is still missing those openings in the second half of the season, maybe #1 (or #31) should be getting more carries.

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ThaVirus 09-12-2021 06:39 PM

Vision looks to be a bit of an issue, which is concerning because he lacks any type of speed or explosion.

Our best case scenario for him as a pro is to be similar to Emmitt Smith or Priest Holmes. What made those two guys great, among other things, was vision.

ThaVirus 09-12-2021 06:41 PM

That swing pass he took for 15-20 yards highlighted what I really don't love about the guy. Damien Williams probably takes that pass for 40, meanwhile CEH got chased down by a LB.

I just think this offense would benefit from a quicker back. CEH and Darrel Williams are sooooooo slow.

srvy 09-12-2021 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15828661)
What concerns me more than his rushing is his complete absence in the passing game.

This for sure!

Have to wonder if his hands weren't as advertised. The back out in the flat used to be a big part of a Reid offense. Maybe Andy felt there was too much speed with the Brown's LBs. It has been absent since Williams was booted.

I'm not giving up on the kid just yet but he is horrible in Pass pro and offers nothing in the passing game. He also runs with head down missing cuts were yards are available.

I hope its not but I am smelling a bust. Oh, also the pitch to the back is gone in our running game. Possible, not fast enough to get to the outside?

Molitoth 09-12-2021 06:42 PM

I think I recall 1 run where CEH could have gone to either side of his blocker for a nice gain, but instead he decided to just put his head down and bulldoze into his ass.

... maybe it was a bad camera angle though.

Rooting for CEH, but his vision seemed so much worse than Hunt and Chubbs.

arrwheader 09-12-2021 06:43 PM

Yep, I saw at least 3 occasions where he literally had wide open holes and instead ran straight into defenders. I don't get it but I'm not an NFL coach but it's pretty obvious he's totally missing holes.

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MVChiefFan 09-12-2021 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 15828824)
I think I recall 1 run where CEH could have gone to either side of his blocker for a nice gain, but instead he decided to just put his head down and bulldoze into the ass of his blocker instead.

... maybe it was a bad camera angle though.

Rooting for CEH, but his vision seemed so much worse than Hunt and Chubbs.

I know exactly the play you’re talking about. That absolutely happened, and all I could do is shake my head.

srvy 09-12-2021 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 15828706)
Idk I didn't see that many holes today

There are seldom holes like in college in the pros. Its the creases you have to see and hit.


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