It hurts the Ravens, sure. As it would literally any team? The Bills, the 9ers, you can say this about most teams.

My contention is just that it should hurt the Chiefs too if they want to be considered the best ever. The best ever would defend their title, dethrone the MVP, erase the “road playoff game” narrative, overcome a lack of roster talent.

No shame in not being able to do that. Those are lofty goals. No one is infallible. But it’s a double standard to expect others buy into the inevitability of the Chiefs as the best ever even if they lose when not one person here will buy into the inevitability of the Ravens eventually breaking through even with their consistency/talent.


Just to be clear, I’m not singling you out. You’ve been fair/balanced. It’s more so the people who want to insist the Chiefs are in a different universe even if they lose. Well, no. If you want that treatment, win.

Down here on planet earth everyone knows the Chiefs run the AFC and will be a continuing powerhouse during the Mahomes era.

Every team that wins the super bowl beats teams in the playoffs with injuries....I'm sure the Patriots had injured players in the 2012 AFCCG that changed its outcome in your favor. Didn't Pollard break Gronk's ankle in the middle of that game?

So were the Texans. Their best WR (Tank Dell) and WR3 (Noah Brown) were both out.

It's a team game. Mahomes could play a perfect game and still lose. His receivers have proven it this year. Hardman damn near gave the game away last week on a fumble at the Buffalo goal line to lose 7 points. Hardman had another fumble inside the Buffalo 10 yard line that potentially cost 4 points for the Chiefs. And Justin Watson had a terrible drop on a perfect 3rd down pass by Mahomes that would have setup KC with 1st down at the Buffalo 10 yard line. The Watson drop potentially cost them 4 points, but at least Watson recovered Hardman's first fumble and saved the team 3 points on that play.

In addition to the receiver mistakes last week, the Chiefs defense got pushed around for 3 quarters of the game and Mahomes was on the sideline for most of it while Buffalo ran 63% of the game clock. When Mahomes actually had a chance to touch the football, he torched Buffalo. I could easily see a scenario in this Baltimore game where Mahomes is great, but gets let down by both the defense and receivers.

Defense gets their butts kicked. Receivers fumble and drop the ball. It's the QB's fault? And don't try to lie by saying Brady overcame that shit. No he didn't. 15 years out of 22 years he failed to win a ring. Lost to shitty QB's like Ryan Tannehill. Failed to make the Playoffs in 2002 right after winning a championship. QB's need help from their teammates, it's really that simple.

This is a dumb argument. It's January of a normal NFL season. EVERY team is dealing with injuries this time of year. Have you seen the Chiefs latest injury report?

You all, the Ravens that is, are extremely lucky to be where you're at healthwise going into the AFC Title Game. Your team is basically fully healthy now.

Most teams don't have that luxury by time mid January rolls around.

If they lose, yeah it sucks and hurts their chances of being considered a dynasty. But they would have Reid and Mahomes and be in contention to win it again next year, simply because of their track record.

Again, a loss here would suck for Chiefs fans, but it would be easier to stomach compared to the Ravens due to the Chiefs consistent ability to make the AFC Championship game.

No dumbass. You didn't say just blitz, you said they were sending the whole house. That more than 5 you reerun.

How do you expect to be taken serious with this argument? Everyone knows that even Brady lost the occasional big game.

Seriously, where the **** is that 3 year old?

The Chiefs defense lost Gay and Edwards in the first couple defensive drives after losing Nnadi vs. Miami. McDuffie got dinged and played through it. Did that not matter I guess??

Road playoff game narrative?

Mahomes has played one road playoff game and won, last week. This Sunday will be his second. Not sure why there would be a 'road playoff game' narrative at this point.

When he does win this weekend, you'll be gone and we'll never hear from you again.

So yeah, how about just go **** yourself and die?

Do you actual compare results or do you just make decisions in your head and convince yourself that it is the truth?

Since your inception you have had 6 Hall of Fame inductees. If we include the colts you have 11.

The Chiefs have 13 since 2010 we have 23 since 2000... but yeah... you got this.

You know it's stark raving mad, don't you?

It's like talking with diqlix, always one step forward and then... oh, we'll just misconstrue a point or add in something they'll feel compelled to argue against that's not even a thing.

Each post is halfway to a decent point, yet demands defensiveness over points that were never even made.

And considering where he's posting from, it's not that far fetched that it is diqlix (I mean, probably not...).

I was also going to point that out but it seemed fruitless.

Historically great teams win SBs. I believe they have crowned themselves early without any hardware to support that claim.

If the chiefs going to yet another conference championship is qualified by Bills and Miami's injuries, is the Chiefs only superbowl loss under Mahomes qualified by Chiefs injuries? Or did Brady still get a ring out of it?

Who cares about Lamar. You're drafting a team to play. We all know your Taking Mahomes over Lamar in that draft as well.

35K posts as a Chiefs fan on a Chiefs message board.

You are (supposedly) a Ravens fan, manically posting on an opposing team’s message board.

Your fear is obvious. LMAO

The entire NFL.

Heck if Cincy or Cleveland didn’t lose their starting QB’s to season ending injuries they might have won the division.

Joe Burrow has shredded the Ravens fraudulent defense in recent years.

32 out of 32 head coaches and every last NFL GM is taking Mahomes over Lamar Jackson.

WERE GOING BACK TO THE SB AND THE CHIEFS WILL BEAT THE RAVENS BUTS!!!!

I just figured he's using east coast pronunciation - stark = stalk, like park = pahk

Anyone else rooting 4 KC?

Or just me?

You cut off the part at the bottom where it says “Savant?” With “No” under Mahomes and “Yes” under Lamar.

FYP. They got McDuffie via trade up. In the Mahomes era this team has never drafted lower than 27 or 28.

Hahaha

You're on our board, talking mad shit. And come Monday, we'll never hear from you again.

Until maybe next year, but probably not.

You guys have had a magical season. Will it be enough?

Maybe. We can't win every year. But we've won it all twice in four, and gotten to the SB three of four.

This is the best shot you're going to have for a long time.

For us, this is just another season.

After Brady won 3 Super Bowls in his first 4 years, he lost back to back years in divisional round (2005) and AFC Title Game (2006). He was 12-2 in playoffs in his first 6 years starting.

Mahomes is 13-3 in his first 6 years in playoffs (with possibly another game to go?) Has been to 3 Super Bowls (so far), 2-1. Has never NOT appeared in AFC Title Game (better than Brady). Has never missed the playoffs (like Brady in 2002). Mahomes is 3-2 in AFC Title Games so far (same as Brady), one more to go on Sunday.

It's funny to see Ravens fans on here act like 'well, if Mahomes loses on Sunday, he'll never be the GOAT or catch Brady'.

He's literally right there with Brady RIGHT NOW. If he wins Sunday, he'll be ahead of him. If he loses, he'll be barely behind him. And then he's got another 8 years to catch up with what it took Brady till he was 36 to accomplish. Reminder, Mahomes is 28.

So this trying to reverse the tables that Mahomes legacy is the 'one on the line' come Sunday is absolutely ludricous. His legacy is established. He is a first ballot HOFer if he retired TODAY. The ONLY question for him at this point is can he catch Brady over the long haul (in trophies), cause he likely will surpass him in every other category (barring injury).

Lamar Jackson's 'legacy' is CLEARLY the one on the line this Sunday. And two Sundays after that! Not only does he have to beat Mahomes to establish he's not a playoff reerun, he has to win the Super Bowl 2 weeks later to prove he belongs in the Top Tier QB convo.

If he doesn't, then he becomes a more athletic version of Ken Anderson.

And whether he has 'staying power' or longevity remains to be seen. Can he do it again next year?

Lots of questions surrounding Lamar . . . . . . . . . not Mahomes.

I dunno, Bengals defense had a major step down this season compared to 2022. They were a pretty awesome defense in 2021 and 2022, especially in the Playoffs where they never allowed more than 24 points against some pretty explosive offenses such as the Rams, Bills, and Chiefs.

The Browns are a tricky one. Is Deshaun Watson any good these days while healthy? I'm not sure. Even while fully healthy, I am not sure Deshaun is anywhere near the same player he was in Houston. The backup QB's for Cleveland seemed to do a solid job. I'm not sure how much better Deshaun would have been.

35,000 posts in . . . . . . . 20 years.

You've posted nearly 200 posts in basically 5 days. Extrapolating that out over a year comes out to 14,600 posts.

Do you wanna multiply that by 20??

Anyone calling Lamar Jackson a "savant" for his ability to read a defense is drunk on purple Kool-aid. It's one thing to say that if you're his coach. Downright delusional if you're falling for that as a Ravens fan.

Only two days.

Total Posts: 196
Posts Per Day: 109.70

My bad.

(*Correcting for accuracy*)

On pace for 35K posts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . in one year.

No need to multiply by 20 now.

Ubeja laughs at this slow pace

and Lamar's

Whut? No one's saying that, are they? Lamar isn't Brady/Manning; he's never going to be. His skills in that regard are pretty pedestrian. Better than he was his first couple years in the league, but he's not even Kirk Cousins when it comes to pre-snap reads and going through his progressions.

Few can outrun him. Even fewer can out-think him.

It's real.

Honestly me 2!

i have a dream that one day we won't have to pretend lamar is a savant in polite society.

You can link me to 100 articles and you won't convince me of that.

It's lost amidst the flood of Ravens interaction, but yes, yesterday one of our new friends was referring to Jackson as a football savant because he saw that the plan wasn't working against the Texans and told the coach at halftime they needed to drop the deep routes they had game-planned and switch to a quick passing game.

To make it even funnier, the guy who kept bringing up was talking about Jackson telling his OC that at HALFTIME. Not from the sideline, after running a few snaps, or even a few series, and seeing what the Texans were doing.

Yeah, that's a sign of advanced processing and dissecting of the defense!

Dunno about others on this Kansas City Chiefs fans site but I am in the KC column

Lamar Jackson is almost slower and worse than Jonathan Taylor!!!!

Knot gahn duet...

I'd rather jump off the roof of a building than have to choose between Lamar Jackson or Jonathan Taylor on my team!!!!!

Kind of what I was saying earlier. He's definitely improved between the ears, but to say he's a savant? That's going way too far. And there's little about his advanced metrics to indicate that he's made a big leap with his efficiency.

Brady has 3 SB losses, one of which was with a team that went undefeated in the regular season. He also went 10 years between ring 3 and ring 4. Would you say he's not the GOAT because of that?

FYI. Black Helicopters insist the NFL is rigged and scripted and you were sent here as a messenger Goodell to soften the blows of the SP 58 logo being purple and red.

Only on Planet Chiefs does the Bully lose and continue to be the Bully. I seriously got you guys losing and still proclaiming yourselves Champions.

Just say BECAUSE MAHOMES, that's all needs to be said everyone has upped their game because of said force multiplier. It's mystifying the media, and are attempting to diminish it at the same time.

If you're honest with yourself you'd realize that we are on cloud 9 as fans of this football team.

We have one of the best 5-6 year runs in NFL history.

We have played in the AFC Championship game 6 years in a row.

We have been to the SB 3 of the last 4 years.

We have won 2 SBs in 4 years.

And if you're honest with yourself yet again, there is no sign of any of this stopping. We're going to be around in this capacity for the next 10 years.

nah d9nt need a cookie I was told I could talk when we drafted a GOAT, i gues I can talk now

What if I told you, after throwing for 52 yards in the first half against the Texans and being sacked twice late in the half, he ran over to the QB coach at halftime and suggested a shorter passing game..... then completely went off in the 2nd half for 100 passing yards!

You'd obviously conclude he's a savant.




(this is also real.... very, very real)

edit: obviously didn't read the post you quoted from duncan, lol.

Victim train pulling out of the station.

That sure is a long winded way of saying we kick ass

I was doing my best Ryan Clark impression

Hmmmm. That is quick thinking, I guess. I think I'll take "Do it Kelce. Do it." as my QB though.

There’s nothing more low effort and hypocritical than being on a message board and mocking someone else for also being on a message board. Especially when you all are thousands of hours deep in this place. Like what are we doing here? I have people, including you, writing long posts at me. I answer and then and am mocked for answering. Get a grip. If it goes beyond discussing football or even trash talk and turns into “you’re a loser for posting,” then just close your forum off and keep it an incestuous cesspool.

No worries, I got it, lol.

Ok, let's get back to talking about the actual game. My Breakdown:

Offense

QB- Chiefs
RB-Chiefs
WR-Chiefs
TE-Chiefs
O-line-Chiefs

Defense:

D-line- Chiefs
LB-Chiefs
Corners-Chiefs
Safeties-Chiefs

ST

Punter-Chiefs
Kicker-Chiefs

We are until someone else wins the Super Bowl.

Even if you beat us, gonna have to beat the Niners or Lions before you can really start talking shit. Lamar will still be an under .500 playoff performer if he loses the Super Bowl.

Don't forget that.

Egg zacktly.
The NFL has the Pats all over again only Mahomes is even better.

This is a Chiefs board. It's where we talk about Chiefs stuff. I guess that may have slipped your attention. I'll bet there is a Ravens board where you can talk about Ravens stuff, but you're welcome to post here too. Don't get too upset if people that came here to talk about the Chiefs don't particularly see things the same way as you though. It's a board where people came to talk about the Chiefs.

Message Board. For talking about the Chiefs.

Chiefs.

But Lamar is also the world's first Illiterate Savant...

Only on Planet Chiefs is Ray Lewis not the GOAT ML, Ed Reed isn't the GOAT safety, and Justin Ticker isn't the GOAT kicker. Let me guess Eric Reid is the GOAT Safety, Willie Gay is the GOAT ML, and Harrison Butker is the GOAT Kicker?

I would completely agree

I mocked you for mocking someone else that has 35K posts in 20 years as a fan here.

If that hurt your feels, well sorry. :shrug:



















P.S. I'm not actually sorry. Truth is, I don't give a ****.

Fixed yer' post.

Baltimore went 2-4 last year without Lamar, but didn't win any games in 2021. Not one.

1) Justin Reid is the GOAT Safety.

2) Nick Bolton is the GOAT linebacker.

But other than that, you nailed it.

Yeah, but do you sleep?
This is your posting history....
9:50pm - 2:15am
5:40am - 7:15am
3pm - 1:15am
4:40am - 1:15pm
(<2 hour gap until now)

tap out accepted.

yet, you're still here. why?

Yeah

Not only does Chiefsplanet agree, the whole nation would as well.

Justin Madubuike is 2nd team All Pro

Sounds like me up until 5 years ago.

See if he drinks beer...