Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9528976)

Serious spoiler. Called it.

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9528976)

Serious spoiler. Called it.

Originally Posted by Sanka (Post 9529022)

see post #4139

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 9529000)

I don't see that as terribly shocking.

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 9528617)

I read in this thread all the time how people think slow, seemingly wasted episodes or scenes are ruining this show, but they are wrong. Episodes that focus on the subtleties in character development are just as important as any other type of episode. This is a show about people, and if people don’t change, or grow, or regress, then it is not authentic. And if you don't love or hate characters like Lori or Andrea or Shane, what's the point?

Norman Reedus provided me with the best moment of the entire series. All the other characters in the group had lost something, or had been torn away from something, but Daryl had found something. He had found a group of people who loved and cared for him, respected him, gave him validation, and had filled in all the things that had been missing from his life before the end of the world. And he desperately wanted Merle to be a part of that. The look of anguish and loss on his face as he sees Walker Merle was heartbreaking. Daryl was devastated, and then he broke down to tears, and then transitioned from pushing Walker Merle away, to taking all his pent up frustration out on Walker Merle while in tears, brought me to tears.

And Michael Rooker gave a virtuoso performance. The writing was superb because it not only carried Merle through an internal debate, spurred on by his conversations with Rick and Daryl, but the dialogue between Merle and Michonne revealed insight into Michonne's character, and the audience didn't even realize it.

For me, this will always be one of the best episodes of the series.

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9529142)

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9529186)

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9529175)

If it is anybody but Milton or Tyreese, how the **** would they know where the pit is? If it is Morgan, they had better have a great ****ing way to explain how he knew where it was, how big it was, how much fuel to use, if it was guarded, if he would need a ton of ammo since the tower attracts zombies, etc.

Originally Posted by Aries Walker (Post 9529208)

Prediction time. I have read neither spoilers nor comics.

Beyond question: Carl. This is his story.

Survive: Rick, Darryl, Maggie, Michonne, Andrea, Tyrese (who joins the group). They meet up with Morgan at his stronghold at the end of the show, leading us into season 4.

Probably Survive: Glenn, Carol, Tyrese's daughter, Milton (who rescues Andrea, then joins the group).

Probably Won't: Herschel (he's slow, he had his torch-passing moment, and his death would cause Maggie some angst), Martinez (the Darryl-Martinez scene from the negotiation episode makes me think there's a slight outside chance he could become the new leader of the survive Woodburians, or even join the group.)

Dead Meat: Baby Judith (there's no way they saddle this crew with a baby forever), Beth (really there just as a babysitter; she'll maybe die while caring or trying to shield or save Judith), Allen (filled with rage, blaming the survivors for Ben's death, shot dead), The Governor (of course), the Gov's big black henchman. Karen, if she takes place in the assault, will also die horribly, but she is such a non-character they may just not show her.

The other big question around my work these days is who gets to kill the Governor? Just about everyone has motive by now. My boss said Andrea. I said Maggie at first, but changed my answer to Rick.

Now next Sunday, we'll see how wrong I am.

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9529199)

reeruned.

Stumbling upon something is not a huge stretch of the imagination. Hell, God forbid he hear the damned thing.

Most likely though, he crossed paths with their group, saw them before they saw him, and in his state of mind, kept his distance, laid low, watched from afar, then waited ample time to make sure it was clear. After that, it's just investigate, burn, flee.

Also, he already has a measuring cup for gasoline in his zombie incineration kit, everyone gets one in the apocalypse. Duh. Dump gasoline, light match.

Also, did you see how many rounds he pumped out in that scene! Zero. So it's safe to assume that the amount of ammo he needed was nil. Not that having enough would have been a problem, unless you think he is going to travel without a portion of his armory.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9529215)

I'm starting to think they don't kill off the Govenor and they just roll him into next season.

There is too much to wrap up in 1 more hour. A lot of this will carry over....