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duncan_idaho 09-08-2018 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13714768)
There have been whispers around town that he has substance abuse issues. The BK epsiode being the most notable. Besides that he now has a lengthy durability issue and with the team in the red and going nowhere the next 3 years it wouldnt be shocking if they move on. Should have done it while he had value but whatever.


Duffy was not on anything at the time of the BK drive-thru incident. He was blood-tested and the alcohol was the only thing found, or he would have faced more severe punishment.

Those whispers are just that - whispers.

KC is on the hook for the contract unless they find someone willing to take it. There’s no win for KC to simply move him in a salary dump.

His value was at a peak entering 2017, and they could have traded him then, but kept him to try to take another shot at winning.

If KC is going to do a pure salary dump of a starter, it should be someone like Ian Kennedy who doesn’t have enough upside to make you a big loser in the deal on the back end of it.

Prison Bitch 09-08-2018 10:59 AM

They should dump them both for nothing, if they even can.

duncan_idaho 09-08-2018 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13715034)
They should dump them both for nothing, if they even can.


I’ll buy that on Kennedy. You’re not going to get anything for him and if you can find someone to take on some of the contract, it is worthwhile.

With Duffy, there’s still more upside - and risk that comes with it- in just flat dumping him. He’s still just a good first half or good year away from being someone you can get value for.

The front office can survive overpaying Duffy for a few years while the team is not competitive. What it could not survive is dumping him for nothing and then seeing him perform well for another team.

Not much risk of that with Kennedy... at this point.

tk13 09-08-2018 12:13 PM

You'd almost certainly have to give up something of decent value to get someone to take Kennedy's contract. I'm not optimistic about that at all.

RealSNR 09-08-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13715094)
You'd almost certainly have to give up something of decent value to get someone to take Kennedy's contract. I'm not optimistic about that at all.


How about 2015 ALCS MVP Alcides Escobar???

duncan_idaho 09-08-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13715120)
How about 2015 ALCS MVP Alcides Escobar???


Hopefully he’s gone after this year and they just commit to going young. He’s going to be cheap and likely obtainable on a minor league deal next year.

BigCatDaddy 09-08-2018 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13715122)
Hopefully he’s gone after this year and they just commit to going young. He’s going to be cheap and likely obtainable on a minor league deal next year.

With Whit likely back and Lopez looking ready doesn't he pretty much have to be gone? You have Herrera as a utility guy.

duncan_idaho 09-08-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13715128)
With Whit likely back and Lopez looking ready doesn't he pretty much have to be gone? You have Herrera as a utility guy.


You would think so. But they’re loyal to him.

I was fine with bringing him back this year. They wanted to make Mondesi prove it and thought he needed it for his development. Can’t really argue with that so far.

OKchiefs 09-08-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13715128)
With Whit likely back and Lopez looking ready doesn't he pretty much have to be gone? You have Herrera as a utility guy.

Hopefully Whit is not back, Mondesi and Lopez can man the middle. And yes, I'm assuming we get a rather large return for him. Herrera can be the utility IF guy, and we have other cheap options that can fill in.

BWillie 09-08-2018 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13715215)
Hopefully Whit is not back, Mondesi and Lopez can man the middle. And yes, I'm assuming we get a rather large return for him. Herrera can be the utility IF guy, and we have other cheap options that can fill in.

If they do bring Whit back, we have a pretty solid IF. Whit/Lopez @ 3B, Mondesi at SS, Whit/Lopez at 2B. I see no reason why Lopez/Whit can't play 3b. Whoever has stronger arm out of Whit/Lopez should play it, which I would imagine is Lopez. Ideally Hunter Dozier will play like the Hunter Dozier in the last 3 weeks but I'm not counting on it.

Prison Bitch 09-08-2018 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13715208)
You would think so. But they’re loyal to him.

I was fine with bringing him back this year. They wanted to make Mondesi prove it and thought he needed it for his development. Can’t really argue with that so far.

I wasn't fine with it and you shouldn't have been either, he's a negative WAR player. If your point is you wanted him to block Mondesi for a bit, that's fine, but you can go get a diff vet SS to do that.

Titty Meat 09-08-2018 02:33 PM

Also did anyone hear Ned on with Keitzman yesterday? Always appreciate how hes a straight shooter but he didnt seem confident in coming back next year.

Dartgod 09-08-2018 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13714768)
There have been whispers around town that he has substance abuse issues. The BK epsiode being the most notable. cking if they move on. Should have done it while he had value but whatever.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13714869)
Duffy was not on anything at the time of the BK drive-thru incident. He was blood-tested and the alcohol was the only thing found, or he would have faced more severe punishment.

Those whispers are just that - whispers.

So Billay is full of shit...like usual.

Titty Meat 09-08-2018 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13715290)
So Billay is full of shit...like usual.

How am I full of shit? It's what I heard. Do you even live in Kansas City?

Dartgod 09-08-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13715294)
How am I full of shit? It's what I heard. Do you even live in Kansas City?

You're full of shit because you're throwing out unfounded rumors as fact.

Technically no, I live in the KC Metro area. And this is the first time I've heard of it. Probably because it's bullshit.


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