"toilet brusher" - new term for "sure-miss" players that become impact players

I absolutely hated Maybin even more than Orakpo, Maybin produced for 1 year, is 20 years old and is extremely light.

My argument of why I didn't like Crabtree 3 was there wasn't enough separating him from the other WR's, Hakeem Nicks went in the late 20's and as players there is very little separating them to justify that difference in picks and contracts.

You do realize that when you discuss the draft you're going to be wrong quite often if you hit 50% you're doing an awesome job.

Which is why it's a little nuts to get so caught up in certain players.

And-a 1, 2, 3, 4:

One of these an-swers is-the right one,
One of these an-swers is full-o FAIL"...:)


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Yup, or talk about you're going to fix everything with a draft.

with all due respect, how can you say you dont like to compare players because its not fair... then say you didnt want Orakpo because he was from Texas?

Orakpo had about every indicator of an elite pass rusher (and specifically a 3-4 rushbacker type) because of his speed and ability in coverage that Wash is utilizing by playing him at lb on 1st and 2nd down, not to mention his ability to be a elite pass rusher...and was just written off here because....wait for it..."he was from Texas"

LOL I am seeing eye to eye with you more and more.

NY only having to spend peanuts to move all the way from 17 to 5 should tell you all you need to know.

The kid has a long way to go, time will tell if he has the heart to develop into a all pro, or if he regresses.

Mecca hates big 12 players, it goes way back.

OMG think if we had drafted Orakpo and Mauluaga last year and Suh this year!

That would SURELY have helped to key a championship caliber defense.

Someone say something about "corner stones"?

When you say you'd rather take it up the ass than draft a player, it's more than just a 50/50 miss. You are not only saying that your "expertise" tells you this guy is a chump, but you're also telling us what your degree of certainty is for that. If you just said "I'd rather take a couple of other guys" that's one thing. Saying it the way he said it tells us how certain he was that this guy was a sure bust. Which in turn tells you why some people are working in football evaluating talent and others are sitting in their mom's basement.

I think it's just popular on the internet to bash Big 12 players on defense, so the bandwagon effect comes into play. Someone who reads all over the internet about one topic can fall victim to that.

In my profession this is common too. Without any real expertise you come to think X because you read X on the internet. EVERYONE (on the internet) knows X, X is obvious... but really you are only getting the opinion of people who post on the internet and those who are very loud about it get more attention than they ought to get. So you end up with a skewed opinion - again, lacking anything else to rely on.

Big12 defensive players generally suck. Mainly because the big12 is a pussy conference with too many spread offenses and not enough big dick I formation "let's find out who the men are" football.