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KCrockaholic 04-24-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708197)
And if you also give Dallas Dez Bryant do we still win that game?

Possibly, but probably not. I don't know how any team not named the Jets can cover the Cowboys in 2010.

chiefzilla1501 04-24-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708166)
Dane, an honest question:

Who makes more plays, a #2 WR or a slot WR?

A pass rushing OLB, or a nickel corner?

A nose tackle, or a tight end?

While I understand your point, you're assuming that the Chiefs should be drafting based on need.

I agree with your post that asks about whether McCluster, Arenas, or Moeaki offer better value than other similar guys at their position.

For McCluster, he offers a lot more versatility than Tate does. For Moeaki, he offers a lot more versatility--he's a terrific blocker who can catch the ball, while Graham is a high upside receiving TE who can't block. McCluster is a pick that's going to have to pass a significant sniff test, but if the intent is to use him as a Sproles type player where you move him around all over the field, it has potential to be a pretty decent pick.

Mecca 04-24-2010 01:06 AM

One team said Bryant has an irregular heartbeat.

Mecca 04-24-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 6708204)
"Bryan Bulaga will be the Chiefs first round draft pick." --Scott Wright

Having a bad mock draft and having opinions of players are not the same.

I don't think there's 1 person other than Scott Pioli that thought Javier Arenas was a 2nd round pick.

DaneMcCloud 04-24-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708200)
"A nickel corner and return man. Chiefs are drafting backups in Round 2 this year."--Scott Wright.

No offense to you, but Scott Wrght's the same dumbass that said the Chiefs were taking an O-lineman in the draft, wouldn't take my question in his draft chat and said a bunch of other stupid shit (which I copied and pasted but can't remember).

He's a ****ing guy with a website.

Mecca 04-24-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6708206)
While I understand your point, you're assuming that the Chiefs should be drafting based on need.

I agree with your post that asks about whether McCluster, Arenas, or Moeaki offer better value than other similar guys at their position.

For McCluster, he offers a lot more versatility than Tate does. For Moeaki, he offers a lot more versatility--he's a terrific blocker who can catch the ball, while Graham is a high upside receiving TE who can't block. McCluster is a pick that's going to have to pass a significant sniff test, but if the intent is to use him as a Sproles type player where you move him around all over the field, it has potential to be a pretty decent pick.

If you're not drafting for need and you're not taking the best players available at the positions you're drafting, what exactly do you call your draft approach?

Reaper16 04-24-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708202)
So McCluster will be good the day we get a deep threat like Randy Moss, ok so when McCluster is 57 years old.

Potentially in next year's draft, to be fair.

lostcause 04-24-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708187)
We took inferior prospects to what was available at the positions on top of taking positions that really aren't that valuable.

Am I really suppose to believe that a WR/RB project dude and a nickel CB that does kick returns is move valuable than a NT a pass rusher or a potential franchise QB?

I'm sure that if Weiss felt that Tate was a better offensive weapon than McCluster - we would have probably gone that route. I would have been curious to see Benn with an Arrowhead, but we did pick up a guy that looks very dangerous in a lot of ways. As I said, they addressed NT in free-agency and thus had the 'luxury' to grab the premier returner in the draft. As for franchise QB, why not ride Cassell one more year and hit up the real QB draft next year for that guy instead of taking a pass on Weiss's guy - who obviously didn't make the grade.

Reaper16 04-24-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708210)
If you're not drafting for need and you're not taking the best players available at the positions you're drafting, what exactly do you call your draft approach?

The Patriot Way?

BryanBusby 04-24-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708208)
Having a bad mock draft and having opinions of players are not the same.

I don't think there's 1 person other than Scott Pioli that thought Javier Arenas was a 2nd round pick.

Funny you mention this, because Scott Wright put Arenas going to the Colts in Round 2 for his final mock.

DaneMcCloud 04-24-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708208)
Having a bad mock draft and having opinions of players are not the same.

I don't think there's 1 person other than Scott Pioli that thought Javier Arenas was a 2nd round pick.

Or Eric Berry

|Zach| 04-24-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708210)
If you're not drafting for need and you're not taking the best players available at the positions you're drafting, what exactly do you call your draft approach?

Having all the information and making decisions.

ChiefsCountry 04-24-2010 01:09 AM

Hell I picked Arenas in our mock draft. I like him, but not 2nd round like him.

Mecca 04-24-2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6708211)
Potentially in next year's draft, to be fair.

And you trust this team to make a proper pick...just sayin.

OleMissCub 04-24-2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6708181)
Dude, there is no way you can watch the guy play and actually believe he runs at that speed. He was outrunning secondaries.

No kidding. That criticism of him is completely ridiculous because anyone with a brain and a set of eyes can tell he is running at about 4.4 speed (which is what he ran at his pro days).


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