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NJChiefsFan 12-21-2011 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8227519)
I honestly don't get the logic behind thinking trading up for a QB sets this franchise back years if he busts. With the new rookie cap, these players don't cost nearly as much. Also the only way to truly see how giving up that many picks could set us back is to assume every pick we made was a pro bowler or solid starter. Not once has this team ever had that type of success in any draft. Honestly I would give up our entire 2009 draft for a player like Luck or RGIII, although many people would have thought that foolish because that could set this franchise back or it would be too much to give up for one guy.
The big issue I have is the other solution. There were/are those afraid of doing so yet are fine investing years in Cassel or perhaps a year or two in Orton. They are willing to gamble years for them but not the rookie. Has either done enough in the past to think the risk of letting them try to win a SB is lower than doing so with a young QB?

tredadda 12-21-2011 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8227536)
The big issue I have is the other solution. There were/are those afraid of doing so yet are fine investing years in Cassel or perhaps a year or two in Orton. They are willing to gamble years for them but not the rookie. Has either done enough in the past to think the risk of letting them try to win a SB is lower than doing so with a young QB?
Nope. But the fear of a first round QB busting on this team has scared many away from wanting to do it and instead they want to try and win with a retread QB. Never mind that players at all positions in the first round bust, if they do you just try again, but heaven forbid a QB do it. We might go winless or not sniff the playoffs for decades to follow. I am just glad those fans are few and far between.

ClevelandBronco 12-21-2011 11:34 PM
I haven't read this whole thread, but if Orton is the answer, the question should be rephrased.

Hammock Parties 12-21-2011 11:39 PM
Albert has jumped offsides 5 times all year.

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/playersta...d=8792&team=12

He is a fine left tackle.

Hammock Parties 12-21-2011 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 8227139)
This line wouldnt place 25th this season. It would be lower Im sure.
Explain this:

Offensive Line Pass Blocking Efficiency
The Pro Football Focus "Pass Blocking Efficiency" rating measures pressure allowed on a per-snap basis with weighting toward sacks allowed.

http://i40.tinypic.com/24wfu48.jpg

Hammock Parties 12-21-2011 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 8227194)
He probably gives Brandon Albert the wrong snap count once or twice a game just to draw attention away from himself.

I hear he leaves the toilet seat up too.

That mother****er is no good on any level.
.
Oh?

Explain this.

Offensive Tackle Pass Blocking Efficiency
The Pro Football Focus "Pass Blocking Efficiency" rating measures pressure allowed on a per-snap basis with weighting toward sacks allowed.

http://i44.tinypic.com/flak1s.jpg

tredadda 12-21-2011 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8227598)
Oh?

Explain this.

Offensive Tackle Pass Blocking Efficiency
The Pro Football Focus "Pass Blocking Efficiency" rating measures pressure allowed on a per-snap basis with weighting toward sacks allowed.

http://i44.tinypic.com/flak1s.jpg
Keep showing stats like that and you might just convince someone that we don't need to draft a LT in the first round.

BigMeatballDave 12-21-2011 11:50 PM
Crazyhorse = Owned

Dexter Manley 12-21-2011 11:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8227598)
Oh?

Explain this.

Offensive Tackle Pass Blocking Efficiency
The Pro Football Focus "Pass Blocking Efficiency" rating measures pressure allowed on a per-snap basis with weighting toward sacks allowed.

http://i44.tinypic.com/flak1s.jpg

Pittsburgh Steeler rookie ORT Marvel Smith "allowed" three sacks in his opening start to Courtney Brown. The first was a bull rush where the QB ran into Brown while escaping another defender, and Smith's protection held almost 5 full seconds. The second, Smith blocked down and let Brown go free. The third was another case where the QB held the ball too long, and then essentially scrambled right into Brown again.

Marvel Smith did extremely well his opening start. He "allowed" three sacks on your BS "chart..."

Dexter Manley 12-21-2011 11:53 PM
David Stewart!!!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Gets help almost every time in pass protection - has since Shawn Lights Out torched him badly in the playoffs a few years ago...

ClevelandBronco 12-21-2011 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8227598)
Clearly, Cleveland is Super Bowl bound.

Hammock Parties 12-21-2011 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobbie (Post 8227608)
Pittsburgh Steeler rookie ORT Marvel Smith "allowed" three sacks in his opening start to Courtney Brown. The first was a bull rush where the QB ran into Brown while escaping another defender, and Smith's protection held almost 5 full seconds. The second, Smith blocked down and let Brown go free. The third was another case where the QB held the ball too long, and then essentially scrambled right into Brown again.

Marvel Smith did extremely well his opening start. He "allowed" three sacks on your BS "chart..."
What the **** are you even talking about?

Marvel Smith doesn't play for the Steelers.

His rookie year was 2000, and PFF wasn't even in existence.

HE'S NOT EVEN IN THE LEAGUE ANYMORE.

BigMeatballDave 12-21-2011 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobbie (Post 8227608)
Pittsburgh Steeler rookie ORT Marvel Smith "allowed" three sacks in his opening start to Courtney Brown. The first was a bull rush where the QB ran into Brown while escaping another defender, and Smith's protection held almost 5 full seconds. The second, Smith blocked down and let Brown go free. The third was another case where the QB held the ball too long, and then essentially scrambled right into Brown again.

Marvel Smith did extremely well his opening start. He "allowed" three sacks on your BS "chart..."
BS Chart?

You can leave out the O for OLT and ORT. We are well aware that you are referring to the offensive line.

ClevelandBronco 12-21-2011 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8227617)
BS Chart?

You can leave out the O for OLT and ORT. We are well aware that you are referring to the offensive line.
And he could have left the B off of BS.

jd1020 12-22-2011 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8227617)
BS Chart?

You can leave out the O for OLT and ORT. We are well aware that you are referring to the offensive line.
When referring to sacks, LT and RT could have a very different meaning.


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